The downvotes make me chuckle. You know, I actually did not really think about how much Apple hardware I had until I listed it off. The Apple fans and I obviously agree on some stuff ( just not the OS so much I guess ).

I do have an iPhone 15 though ( running iOS ). I am not very likely to put Android or Linux on it anytime soon.

Except Macs that go out of support do turn into pumpkins. Because software will start to refuse to run on it because the OS is too old. That is how I define unusable.

OpenCore Legacy patcher is awesome but it is not without issue.

I guess some people think that unsupported operating systems causing GPU glitches or being stuck in ancient application versions is a better experience. Not me. I am very happy to put Linux on a Mac, get better performance, and enjoy totally up-to-date applications. If I really need to, I could always run one or two macOS or Windows applications in a VM. I am not sure what those would be though.

I am about to inherit another iMac from my wife. I put OpenCore Legacy Patcher on it to extend the life and she has hated it ever since I did that ( I put Sonoma on it ).

I am going to downgrade her to Monterey ( a massive pain since macOS does not support downgrades ). If she still does not like it, I will have a 27” iMac running Linux. Even if she likes it, it won’t be long before Office or Teams or something won’t run on the OS anymore. So, it will be Linux eventually.

I have Linux installed on an iMac, a MacBook Air, a MacBook Pro, and a Mac Pro ( Proxmox ).

It does not sound like we would agree.

If you mean Dick Cheney, you are not wrong.

She would just need to schedule surgery or something.

I have wanted to like D for so long but it has just not been able to create a cohesive story outside its own bubble. It feels like it is going nowhere. Certainly, given its ages, there is no obvious path to popularity.

This is literally the text from one of the links above that assert that Andreas is a fascist:

“I’m doing my best to build something I believe in, and everyone is welcome to participate as long as we can set our differences aside. ”

I cannot imagine how lopsided your world-view needs to be to interpret this kind of neutrality as “fascist”.

The only conclusion that I can draw is that some people are so polarized ( black and white ) that they can only interpret people that are not “with” them as “against” them.

And to clarify “with” above means “shares my extreme views and expectations”.

If that is true, it is tragically sad.

This is a risky comment I know but projecting the politics of “certain kinds of conservatives” onto a Swedish person feels political to me. Why do we feel we know his thought? Certainly not because of the political climate elsewhere I hope.

After reading the SerenityOS comment, I find it a lot easier to believe that he thought following the long history of apolitical norms in language use was the safe, non-political option. Little did he know?

I realize that many people now see “historical norms” as implicitly tainted by adjacent beliefs that many also have been present historically. That is fine. Go ahead and change the language. Language evolution is natural. I have no problem with that. But can we not also acknowledge that many people simply learned to use language within a context that had nothing to do with these issues? Isn’t “lack of awareness” or even “lack of a position” a more likely explanation than “sides with the enemy”.

I see no evidence that the SerenityOS guy himself meant anything political. I do not believe that I can tell his stance on trans issues at all from what he said. And that is the problem.

Insisting that other people that do not share your passion for language reform are anything other than neutral to your issues is very political. You are projecting some very unkind attributes onto somebody that does not deserve that treatment.

How is persecution of others a valid way to defend a minority? All I see is one innocent comment asking to be left out of a political debate and then months or years of aggressive attacks in response. Has he even responded to these attacks?

At the time the comment was written, I think it could have been included in the project or not and it would have meant nothing either way. As somebody that believes trans people are just people, it honestly would not have occurred to me to object to either text.

Frankly, the level of vitriol that has been directed towards him totally vindicates his initial comment. The level of politics is absurd. I am quite sure that many people witnessing these attacks are turned off. Some that were previously pretty neutral have probably been driven away. Others will fear “trans” as a dangerous, radical movement.

What is the actual goal here? It cannot actually be harmony and inclusion. Nobodycould be pushing that so ineffectively.

The text you quote literally appears under the heading “Apple Platforms”. Gee, why don’t they mention anybody else in the Apple section?

Immediately below that, there is a cross-platform section where they say “SwiftArgumentParser and Swift’s growing package ecosystem make developing cross-platform command-line tools a breeze.”

So, at worst, it sounds like the main Swift project may leave you to heft some of the GUI load yourself. Except 99% of what Ladybird does is under the hood processing that creates bitmaps for display. There is hardly any GUI really. Plus, Swift offers C++ interop.

Ladybird stems from SerenityOS where they write everything themselves. They have their own networking, GUI libraries, and crypto. Since splitting, they have adopted font rendering and media libraries from other projects ( largely available as C code I believe ).

Swift is cross-platform in all the ways the Ladybird gang needs it to be. It uses LLVM ( very cross-platform ) and the Swift compiler is meant to be cross-platform. All that will evolve and improve independent of Ladybird itself. The Ladybird team does not need many libraries from the Swift ecosystem. What they will need is pretty basic and fundamental.

Think back to Rust and Mozilla. When Mozilla rewrote the CSS parser in Rust, how much GUI rework was required? None? The CSS parser fell into the space defined by “command-line tools”.

Apple is still very vested in the success of Swift overall and also friendly to the cross-platform agenda.

What significant beneficiary is backing Rust?

At a deeper level, they both heavily lean on LLVM which of course is heavily supported by many players ( including Apple ) and which is also deeply cross-platform.

The article implies that CrowdStrike issue impacted only Debian and Rocky 9.4. Debian I can see. But how did something impact Rocky but not RHEL itself or Alma or Oracle?

Is Rocky actually different from RHEL now? Their entire brand promise is that they are the same.

This is accurate.

There is another reply that says “this is not accurate” that includes true information to back you up.

For infrastructure, RHEL is the gold standard for large companies with a budget. The RHEL customer-base probably overlaps almost completely with CrowdStrike.

RHEL imitators are popular with people that value cost savings more than the corporate backing ( beyond individual cases, this DOES NOT describe the enterprise space ).

Ubuntu is very popular with developers in companies of all sizes. Outside of maybe being the base for containers, this is not how “infrastructure” choices are made though.

Debian is popular with Linux enthusiasts and, where they have influence, businesses may use that. In enterprise environments, it is less likely this group is the one making the decisions. Again though, individual cases exist.

Addendum to my other reply:

Visiting the OpenLogic website makes it clear that they sell Linux support. In other words, you only work with OpenLogic ( and take their survey ) if you rely on a Linux distro that does not have commercial support ( or lousy I guess ). In other words, you only use OpenLogic if you are not paying for a real enterprise Linux product.

https://www.openlogic.com/

OpenLogic is calling this an “enterprise” Linux survey because they are positioning themselves as “enterprise” level support. But this survey pretty much excludes real enterprise Linux by definition.

Thins “enterprise” list is hilarious. There are SIX RHEL rip-offs but RHEL itself does not even make the list?

I know nothing about openlogic.com but they should not have “logic” in their name.

This is clearly a survey of what people run when they want to avoid paying for software. That might be a good description of the small business landscape but literally the opposite of Enterprise. At best, this is a survey of departmental IT in mid-size businesses.

Look, based on revenue alone, it is crazy obvious that RHEL is number one and either Oracle ( basically RHEL ) or SLE ( SUSE ) is number two. Oracle is mostly used as a base for Oracle DB and Oracle Applications. SUSE gets used to host SAP. Amazon Linux gets used on AWS ( the largest cloud ).

I think that Ubuntu gets used a lot in Enterprise but mostly for in-house stuff. It is probably the standard for embedded. I see it used as a base platform a lot in Azure. But Canonical has half the revenue that SUSE has despite “enterprise” Linux being a much smaller part of the Canonical product mix.

The Linux kernel has been been able to build with Clang for long time. Chimera Linux does omit out of the box.

I do not know if you can build Windows with Clang but I bet you can.

VertOS or GrunOS

We would have come up with lots of ways to make Steam. Electricity still would have happened. So I am guessing a lot of steam generating electricity. Hydro power would still be a thing as would thermal.

Wind power seems like the real candidate for early supremacy though. It can be purely mechanical ( eg. Grinding or running pumps ), it could store energy in the form of water pressure, and it could be used to generate electricity.

If we had a reliable electrical grid and no fossil fuels, things like batteries and electric cars would have gotten a lot further ahead sooner.

A smaller Industrial Revolution was totally possible on wind and water power. The next step would be electricity. Once we had electricity, a lot of the road we went down would be possible. Nuclear power would probably have been added to the mix more or less on the same schedule.

Perhaps the biggest deference would not be energy but rather plastics. It is hard to say what the materials side of history would have looked like without oil.

That is literally the comment that started all of this. Prepare to be convicted and sentenced in the court of public opinion.

I am serious, the only comment by the dev in question was “This project is not an appropriate arena to advertise your personal politics.”

“reactionary”. Self-aware much?

I do not know either of you.

That said, on the one hand we have a guy that trivial research reveals has been dramatically transparent about his own life, struggles, and frailty in a really humble and disarming way. He shares his talent freely not only with code but mentorship and teaching. He has created a thriving and closer-knit community working together to do interesting and valuable things ( OS and browser ). His somewhat famous tagline is “well, hello friends”. He has also showcased both his wife and other females on his channel. Unless I misunderstand the term “incel”, you are demonstrably and factually wrong on that front at least. The biggest complaint I could find about him elsewhere is that his is “too neutral”. Perhaps that is at play here.

On the other hand, we have somebody directly peddling destruction, slander, and hate ( you ). And why? As far as I can tell, the only contribution the SerenityOS founder has made to this “discussion” is the sentence “This project is not an appropriate arena to advertise your personal politics.”. Is that really it? Overreaction?

That sentence spawned all of this? I must have misunderstood which of you we were labelling as “reactionary”.

Regardless of if the project should have accepted the commit or not ( a valid debate ), I cannot possibly side with this reaction. It is awful.

Downvotes welcome. I would rather be ethical than popular.