Pretty much, yeah. And I’m not convinced by your news article either as the study described relies on the reporting of pet-owners. Vegan cat owners forcing such a diet on their pet aren’t exactly people I trust to be 100% honest about the wellness of said cat.
Convincing people to be ethical past the point of inconvenience requires insincerity, yes. The average person is a horrible human being
If belligerent internet comments actually convinced you to change your diet in such an inconvenient manner for no reward but moral superiority, you are not like the people you’re trying to convince. Abusers and cults love bomb because its more effective on a random sample of people
Two things. First, the fact most people arent hunting the animals thenselves really isnt shocking. Human society thrives on specialization. We dont farm or forage our own veggies either, we dont engineer our own cars, we dont construct our own houses. Thats kinda just how civilization works. Its not uniquely symptomatic of “carnists”.
Secondly, you severely underestimate people. Primitive tribes, even if they were less effective at securing large amounts of meat, still hunted without any moral compunctions about the matter. Evolution is a slow thing, people who did that were just like us in any way that matters. Its not unreasonable to assume most people would adjust if you strip away the automation of society. Desperate people resort to cannibalism for goodness sake, I wouldnt put hunting past them.
I think I will actually do this now just to prove you wrong
Lmfao. You gonna be vegan Stalin or something?
And this is why its impossible to have a conversation with yall. Even if you believe this, if you are hostile to outsiders, you just guarantee theyll want to do it more. Cult deprogrammers have to be real nice and mostly just listen for a reason
We really dont though. It is simply not realistic to fight for an ethic that requires the overwhelming majority to be hyperrational in their ethics. Human nature tends toward cruelty, and Ive yet to see a vegan have recourse for that.
Setting aside the whole plants feel pain too bit
Because it is
Speak for yourself
I typed “cartoons” and “animation” in the search bar, toggled to search all instances. Most of what I got were 4-panel comic stories
It didn’t come up when I search for it for some reason, but it seems so
Theres several reasons
Part of it is good old fashioned bigotry
A big part of it is the systemic advantage the Electoral College gives Republicans
And of course there’s the matter that Traitor Trump voters don’t have standards while the rest of us do
The funny thing is our police and fire departments are “socialist” and noone even comments on it
So he wants accommodations. Sounds like something a snowflake beta male would want lmao. Dealing with prosecutors must trigger him after that trial
Id love to see a source on the 50% number lmao
“But genocide palestine”
Im so tired of these people
Fam. Im not gonna blame the KPD for the holocaust, or the Tsarists for the holodomor
And yet people default to those systems and have since the agricultural revolution.
As for plant stimuli, who are you to say that doesn’t constitute pain? They sure communicate it to those around them, cut grass smell and all that. Does an ant not feel pain because it mostly just responds to and sends out pheromones? Bit of a “my red is your blue” argument you’re making.