1.2k registered users on one of the oldest Lemmy instances.
We had 20 active users today, you had 640. I retract my guesstimate, my argument is that you’re only bigger by a factor of 32.
And is it impossible that some of the users from your instance upvoted something they subscribe to, so it must be brigading?
But let’s not discuss like we disagree. You all have convinced me to support defederation.
If you are bigger than us (by a factor of 100?) and we can’t really affect you much, is the fear of substantial downvote brigading perhaps a bit unnecessary?
Don’t feel like I’m accusing you of brigading, you seem like the type of person who’d rather have a discussion than just anonymously downvote.
If anything, based on your previous statement about seeking out a different community to rile them up, trolling would be more correct.
Community blocking was a recent addition, instance blocking for users is coming. I don’t think the massive growth of instances could be expected so I understand the prioritisation.
If you’d care to check my comment history, maybe you can see your own prejudice for yourself.
What can I say about brigading other than Exploding Heads having to turn off downvotes for the first time ever due to silent brigading?
How’s our federation affecting your instance?
I think your standards for what you call fascism is dangerously misguided, I wouldn’t be surprised if you didn’t recognise a totalitarian society if it snuck up on you.
Or perhaps you just didn’t see those who don’t bother engaging in conflict?
I fully understand why you don’t expect to find content there in the future, but is that a good argument to deny access to those who already have?
Exploding heads have gotten subscribers from here as well. There’s an extensive backlog of topics some people find quite important - even if others don’t.
Exploding Heads have between 40-60 active users, you probably noticed two posters you find disagreeable.
Have you considered blocking the users or communities you find offensive?
Smaller lemmy instances runs great on a raspberry pi 3 I’ve heard.
Different experiences I suppose. Used Contabo to host an ansible setup of Lemmy, never had a single outage for 6 months.
The next best solution
Interesting, I’ll check it out once it’s back up.
If it’s automatically connect to “friends-of-friends” instances and subscribe to all communities, that’s a great idea! It would basically crawl the known network as long as there was a single link between instances. It would particularly be a boon to smaller instances that would be much easier to connect to.
If it’s a regular instance ran as a community server with the aim of manually subscribing to everything as an emergency solution to this problem then eh… I literally did that a year ago with like 20 instances. I think that’s not feasible, or even worse - exclusionary without intending. If it’s all manual and everybody goes there because we think it’s all-encompassing… If one is not on the list they don’t exist to the world.
Yes, the !gaming-communities already federated to your home server.
There is most likely a lot of !gaming-communities you’re not seeing.
Make a dummy account at a different instance, create a new community, search for it on your home server and see if it shows up or if you have to search for the community with an URL and pull it to your instance.
I know what you mean, and from that point of view I agree. I have different values and so I use different measurements; A connection to a small instance is equally valuable as a connection to a big instance. It’s not about the amount of content but building a new paradigm of social media.
Well, we will end up with 160+ !gaming communities and no way of finding them other than word of mouth or actively checking every single instance and subscribe to !gaming - If they even have one.
It’s been a big issue for the two years I’ve been on Lemmy and I don’t believe the most used argument, “It will sort it self out, the community will balance it out”.
I’m not too bothered, I have mitigating procedures. I would be very interested in having this discussion again in a year, I feel this is one of the matters that only time will tell if one or none of us is right.
The link also refers to BB: The number of instances that this instances is completely Blocked By. If this number is high, then users on this instance will be limited in what they can see on the lemmyverse. and lists how many other instances every server on that list are blocked by.
When it comes to the overselling of Lemmy and the interconnectivity, what can I say? I’d word it very differently.
Anyways, from a technical point of view I’d say it’s close to what you describe - With third party instances working as an intermediary in some way. The issue is that there’s no “sync” for communities and historically we end up with three different versions of i.e. !gaming, one on each instance. What Lemmy need is some sort of multi-reddit/funneling/taggins system so you can just post to a !gaming community - And then it’d be rejected by those who’ve blocked you. But everybody else would get it.
I don’t see how one out of 160+ servers not connecting to sh.itjust.works would cut you out from the rest of the world.
I think of it more like being cut off from 1/160th of the fediverse. Unfortunate, but in the end a type of community I don’t think I’ll miss since our values don’t align.
You’re basically describing how the fediverse works I think.
How is it different than the current situation where both lemmy.world and beehaw.org are connect to lemmy.ml?
The only simple way I know about is checking the instance status of each individual server. Beyond that it’s building apps to collect the info for you.
At the bottom of every page of a Lemmy instance you’ll find the “Instances” link, which takes you to a list of who are connected and blocked.
No idea of the chronology, instance blocks is a config file setting and doesn’t show up in the mod logs. You’d have to look for announcements from your admins.
I understand the drama, but only have one piece of advice to those who can’t accept such an decision: If you want it your way, make your own.
Your continuous misrepresentation of Exploding Heads is depressing. Burning hatred for redditors? Where do most of the anti-reddit posts on Exploding Heads originate from? Mostly from the new instances. You say dark corners of the internet, but we’re digital neighbors.
If you check the timestamps on that thread you linked you’ll see the non-EH people attached themselves to my comment from god knows where. It was unwanted, unsolicited, I’ve never seen them before and they used it as an example to show how a lemmy thread works. I blocked most of them, that’s why you see my engagement disappear.
That’s the example you use.
I was here years before you guys. I’ve seen the lemmyverse struggle. I have advocated so hard for openness, inclusiveness and communication through interconnectivity - all the while saying that people should block what they don’t like or find offensive.
I find this whole thread symbolic of the culture you all on average have brought with you. Prejudice, misrepresentation, moral reprisals… I had it enough conflict, I know Exploding Heads won’t block you and I know I can’t be bothered to individually block thousands and thousands of users accusing me of the most horrible things, like being a Nazi.
At least you guys won’t have to block two known prolific shitposters maybe having opinions other than yourselves, mostly in a space you’d have to seek out.
By being on the sh.itjust.works you are personally as responsible for this as the average exploding-head user is responsible for a few of our idiots posting on the internet. I’m leaving lemmy until full instance block is available for individual users so I won’t ever have to interact with the type of average user I’ve seen on sh.itjust.works. Or at least in this thread.
You all drove me away from this platform. At least I have the decency not to seriously argue that you all should be disconnected from other instances.