https://codeberg.org/

On February 8, 2021, the formation of the Rust Foundation was announced by its five founding companies (AWS, Huawei, Google, Microsoft, and Mozilla).

IIRC Mull is Fennec without the Firefox telemetry.

I think this is some sort of war on drugs thing.

Nah, just a war on your privacy, really.

women’s clothing is quite infamously lacking pockets.

Hence women’s purses.

One of the deep-pocketed founding members of the Rust Foundation says it’s easy. I’m surprised.

Mixing “firmware” with “easy with minimal experience” in the same sentence makes me cringe…

The code is my bible, the grep is my friend.

That and breakpoints.

Some people do complain about it

It’s an Olympic sport nowadays.

since you now often have to implement things at two places at once.

Huh? Header files should only have declarations, unless you’re screwing around with templates.

Of course, you’re right xmpp evolved to get PubSub extension as an “optional feature” but because of its availability (or rather lack) - most servers didn’t support it even the client did support, xmpp didn’t win the acceptance of the end-users. It got some attention in the business world (cisco jabber) but not in the retail.

That XMPP’s extensibility is in itself a strength and a weakness is indeed a valid argument, as you’ve exemplified. I was expecting you’d criticize OMEMO though…

Business cannot work forever without clients willing to pay or at least use, so it died off even in the business.

No, it didn’t die off, it’s still used. IRC is still used as well, probably more or less at the same level. But if you define usage as “used in business” well then probably just a few cases, yes.

I hadn’t heard of Cisco Jabber but i’ve heard of Google and Facebook - both companies’ messengers were, initially, based on XMPP but they EEE’d it once they got enough users and walled their gardens, dealing a major blow to the protocol.

End of story, try not to fighting with the straw men you created.

Can i fight my inner daemons at least? Please?

He does that a lot, although he tends to be more verbose on the topic when he does. Then again, there’s not much to this story (the details, not the implications).

What exactly are you serving? Chances are you can change the listening port.

I was under the impression XEP-0060 solves that.

XMPP is a bad match.

The X is for extensible, so are a whole bunch of other protocols and people haven’t stopped using them, they get improved upon (for the most part).

Opens with:

The National Aeronautics and Space Administration is increasingly considering cybersecurity when evaluating software projects

You don’t turn on security, but i guess it’s better than nothing.

XMPP is very old

Seriously? That’s your argument? So is the wheel.

Requirement of permanent tcp ip connection doesn’t work well for mobile

I was under the impression PubSub was created for that.

Still, it’s an open extensible protocol.

TL;DR

Ok bye.

Posted the source i found it through.

No for-profit will bother with security unless forced to, as it’s seen as an expense and shareholders don’t like that.

Edit: also:

We had difficulty identifying the right disclosure contact for this issue. We did not want to contact FlyCASS first as it appeared to be operated only by one person and we did not want to alarm them.

Emphasis mine.

There’s a reason nobody uses it anymore.

Yeah, Google and Faceebook EEE’d it.

XMPP is not a good protocol though.

Do elaborate.