Green energy, EV investment, union empowerment (inb4), student debt relief marijuana pardons and likely rescheduling, infrastructure, drug price controls, Chips act, PACT act, non-competes banned (by FTC along ‘party lines’), pardoning people kicked out of military for being gay, supporting Ukraine, etc, etc.
People saying he didn’t do anything have their head in the sand.
Is this where we cue “but he didn’t do everything, everywhere, all at once”?
You lost me the moment you thought the strikes were only about sick days. Look up the unions’ demand and you’ll see that sick days were only one of many, and Biden still gave them less of those than they demanded.
The video says (effectively) “still working behind the scenes on the remaining issues”. Just because they reach an agreement on one item doesn’t mean they ignore all the other items.
That was two years (???) ago and he only has two weeks left in office. Unless by some miracle they can get these things during Trump’s term, it ain’t happening.
It doesn’t get any media coverage, so I have no idea what happened. But this notion that he just ordered them back to work and nothing happened is dead wrong.
I think people are more upset about the net change. Marijuana pardons, but he also pardoned someone who embezzled millions, as well as Hunter (after saying he wouldn’t). He also showed no sympathy for union workers, like when he signed return to work for striking rail workers.
He started the process for medical marijuana legalization in 2022 via rescheduling to schedule 3 (Harris had called for full legalization, Biden only called for medical). It’s not as simple as a singular executive order when done without congressional action alone. The existing law makes the process very convoluted to reschedule. Lots of steps inbetween with people that have actively tried to slow it down
The formal rule for it ended up being fully proposed in May 2024, and the DEA has dragged it out and kept delaying it. The DEA managed to push the inital first hearing out until Dec 2nd and there keep being legal challenges from outside groups to push it back further and further
Dems also tried getting it through via legislation which is much faster. Passed in the house but it died in the senate
Joe Manchin is barely a democrat - though he’s probably the best you’d get out of West Virginia. In other parts of the world, he’d be a different party and he’s already left the Democratic party
Look, Biden could have just gone home, blamed Manchin, called it a day on so many issues but he didn’t. He actually tried to do what he could via executive action in many areas. He got zero credit for quite significant legislation and executive action
He managed to get one of the largest US climate bill through (Inflation Reduction Act), large infrastructure investments, etc.
Biden has many many faults. You don’t need to claim there’s ones in the areas where he did really try and got only shit on for it
Joe Manchin’s obstruction is the last word people got from the Democratic Party on a host of issues.
Look, Biden could have just gone home, blamed Manchin, called it a day on so many issues but he didn’t.
Like he did with most of BBB, yes.
He got zero credit for quite significant legislation and executive action
That’s what happens when you spend decades being on the wrong side of issues, as Biden was with both cannabis and student loans. You don’t get credit for slapping a tiny store-brand bandaid over the problems you made a career out of creating and exacerbating. Especially when the tiny store-brand bandaid falls off.
He managed to get one of the largest US climate bill through (Inflation Reduction Act)
Centrists really overestimate the popularity of that law. Sometimes they wait a whole other sentence before gloating about record oil production.
Biden has many many faults. You don’t need to claim there’s ones in the areas where he did really try and got only shit on for it
His other faults make me disinclined to carry water for him.
You mistake me for a centrist, and that I am not. You mistake me as a fan of Biden, and that too I am not
Yes, we definitely need so much more. We’re not going to get it if we shit on any and every single piece of good news. We’re just going to end up with people too burnt out to do anything. Take the small wins and use them as motivate to build for much larger change we need
A lot of activists put work to make those changes. I am defending the activists and people who put the work in and got wins that no one acknowledges
In history, it’s almost always been the people like that who get change through even with imperfect and flawed people. Lincoln didn’t decide to free enslaved people on his own. He only opposed its expansion and even at that he was quite weak on it. He was willing to give much of that up to stop the civil war at first. But he was closer to the goal of abolitionists and they worked hard to get him to change his tune. Fredrick Douglas is often the classic example of that. He was pissed by Lincoln, called him the “white man’s president” and kept speaking with him in the hopes that he’d actually do what he said he would do and go beyond it
They eventually started to get concessions even if for frustrating reasons. They needed more union soliders and so they convinced to make a mostly symbolic gesture of the emancipation proclamation. It only freed enslaved people when the union regained land. It didn’t free any of the enslaved people behind union lines
But it got the ball rolling, now the union was in a more of a moral fight rather than just trying to keep the union together. Even though the win was small and nowhere need what needed it started shifting how the Union had to appear to itself and to other countries. It eventually ended up leading to the 13th, 14th, and 15th ammendments
It’s easy to find fault in anything. It’s much harder to build that change. I encourage you to find some route to change that’s productive and build something with it
He said he was in favor of removing the fillibuster only for two votes. For everything else he was flatly against eliminating it. He was all for keeping the filibuster in place when republicans regularly held the government hostage on budget bills to. Why did he take the republican side on that? No one knows. It makes no sense.
Well, at least you’ve moved on for your previous position that Biden had rescheduled cannabis. Because you knew every last time you repeated it that it was a fucking lie.
Cannabis is still Schedule I, where you and Crime Bill Biden love it.
For anyone wondering, months ago I said that Biden rescheduled marijuana. I said you can say that I was a little ahead of the ball on that. But Mr Crab got suuuppeeerrr mad, yelling and screaming at me for months, and still going! I think he’s at 4 months now! You’d think that lack of rescheduling raped and killed his mother or something.
where you … love it.
Ah and we have your strawman! Still can’t break that AND operator huh! For anyone wondering, Mr Crab is intent on calling people centrists.
Because you expect people who know better to buy that cannabis is “likely” to be rescheduled in the next month? Come on dude.
Biden didn’t reschedule cannabis. It’s still Schedule I. Where it will remain until the end of his term. Where he always intended it to stay.
He did not, as you asserted, reschedule it. That was a lie. You didn’t “get a little bit ahead of the ball.” That ball ain’t moving and it was never going to. It was just a lie. That’s all it ever was and all it will ever be. You. Lied.
Still can’t break that AND operator huh!
I’m not sure why you think this makes any more sense than last time.
Anyway, I’m out. You’re just trying to provoke a slapfight.
EDIT: They always keep trying when you say you’re leaving. Now he’s whining about downvotes and making conspiracy allegations.
The other guy explained the process perfectly so I won’t bother.
You’re just trying to provoke a slapfight.
Says the guy that’s been trying to slap me for months, over a simple being ahead of the ball lol. If there’s any doubt, I mean just look at the reply above.
Green energy, EV investment, union empowerment (inb4), student debt relief marijuana pardons and likely rescheduling, infrastructure, drug price controls, Chips act, PACT act, non-competes banned (by FTC along ‘party lines’), pardoning people kicked out of military for being gay, supporting Ukraine, etc, etc.
People saying he didn’t do anything have their head in the sand.
Is this where we cue “but he didn’t do everything, everywhere, all at once”?
You lost me the moment you thought the strikes were only about sick days. Look up the unions’ demand and you’ll see that sick days were only one of many, and Biden still gave them less of those than they demanded.
Edit: Typo.
And then when the amazon strikers were being illegally arrested by the cops the other day Biden didnt do a damned thing.
The video says (effectively) “still working behind the scenes on the remaining issues”. Just because they reach an agreement on one item doesn’t mean they ignore all the other items.
No he waited for the news cycle to move on and abandoned them
If that was the case then they wouldn’t have even gotten the sick days presented in the video. But they did.
That was two years (???) ago and he only has two weeks left in office. Unless by some miracle they can get these things during Trump’s term, it ain’t happening.
It doesn’t get any media coverage, so I have no idea what happened. But this notion that he just ordered them back to work and nothing happened is dead wrong.
I think people are more upset about the net change. Marijuana pardons, but he also pardoned someone who embezzled millions, as well as Hunter (after saying he wouldn’t). He also showed no sympathy for union workers, like when he signed return to work for striking rail workers.
https://youtu.be/EM6jMtG_MB8
Cannabis is still Schedule I.
Going to copy paste my comment from elsewhere
He started the process for medical marijuana legalization in 2022 via rescheduling to schedule 3 (Harris had called for full legalization, Biden only called for medical). It’s not as simple as a singular executive order when done without congressional action alone. The existing law makes the process very convoluted to reschedule. Lots of steps inbetween with people that have actively tried to slow it down
The formal rule for it ended up being fully proposed in May 2024, and the DEA has dragged it out and kept delaying it. The DEA managed to push the inital first hearing out until Dec 2nd and there keep being legal challenges from outside groups to push it back further and further
Dems also tried getting it through via legislation which is much faster. Passed in the house but it died in the senate
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3617
So why’d he fuck off until 2022 instead of starting it on Inauguration Day?
Maybe because there was a freaking pandemic to focus on. (Besides that the other guy said they did.)
Because legislation was a much faster route so they started there. It took a bit before died in the senate
No, that’s bullshit. There is absolutely no excuse why he couldn’t have worked on both processes at the same time.
Gee. How could that have happened in the Senate that Democrats controlled at the time?
The filibuster, which Biden did try to push for removal in certain areas. Joe Manchin and Sinema wouldn’t budge on it
We gave Democrats a majority. We gave them the opportunity. They didn’t do what we elected them to do.
Joe Manchin is barely a democrat - though he’s probably the best you’d get out of West Virginia. In other parts of the world, he’d be a different party and he’s already left the Democratic party
Look, Biden could have just gone home, blamed Manchin, called it a day on so many issues but he didn’t. He actually tried to do what he could via executive action in many areas. He got zero credit for quite significant legislation and executive action
He managed to get one of the largest US climate bill through (Inflation Reduction Act), large infrastructure investments, etc.
Biden has many many faults. You don’t need to claim there’s ones in the areas where he did really try and got only shit on for it
Joe Manchin’s obstruction is the last word people got from the Democratic Party on a host of issues.
Like he did with most of BBB, yes.
That’s what happens when you spend decades being on the wrong side of issues, as Biden was with both cannabis and student loans. You don’t get credit for slapping a tiny store-brand bandaid over the problems you made a career out of creating and exacerbating. Especially when the tiny store-brand bandaid falls off.
Centrists really overestimate the popularity of that law. Sometimes they wait a whole other sentence before gloating about record oil production.
His other faults make me disinclined to carry water for him.
You mistake me for a centrist, and that I am not. You mistake me as a fan of Biden, and that too I am not
Yes, we definitely need so much more. We’re not going to get it if we shit on any and every single piece of good news. We’re just going to end up with people too burnt out to do anything. Take the small wins and use them as motivate to build for much larger change we need
A lot of activists put work to make those changes. I am defending the activists and people who put the work in and got wins that no one acknowledges
In history, it’s almost always been the people like that who get change through even with imperfect and flawed people. Lincoln didn’t decide to free enslaved people on his own. He only opposed its expansion and even at that he was quite weak on it. He was willing to give much of that up to stop the civil war at first. But he was closer to the goal of abolitionists and they worked hard to get him to change his tune. Fredrick Douglas is often the classic example of that. He was pissed by Lincoln, called him the “white man’s president” and kept speaking with him in the hopes that he’d actually do what he said he would do and go beyond it
They eventually started to get concessions even if for frustrating reasons. They needed more union soliders and so they convinced to make a mostly symbolic gesture of the emancipation proclamation. It only freed enslaved people when the union regained land. It didn’t free any of the enslaved people behind union lines
But it got the ball rolling, now the union was in a more of a moral fight rather than just trying to keep the union together. Even though the win was small and nowhere need what needed it started shifting how the Union had to appear to itself and to other countries. It eventually ended up leading to the 13th, 14th, and 15th ammendments
It’s easy to find fault in anything. It’s much harder to build that change. I encourage you to find some route to change that’s productive and build something with it
Because we didn’t elect enough of them. You’re really leaning on “we have a majority because West Virginia”?
There are never enough. They killed the public option last time we gave them a supermajority.
He said he was in favor of removing the fillibuster only for two votes. For everything else he was flatly against eliminating it. He was all for keeping the filibuster in place when republicans regularly held the government hostage on budget bills to. Why did he take the republican side on that? No one knows. It makes no sense.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/21/biden-nothing-done-filibuster-abolished-500502
Hello Mr Crab! That’s why I said likely! He told whatever agency to look at it and iirc they announced plans to reschedule it.
I also see someone else has given you a whole bunch of information on it.
Cannabis is still Schedule I.
And that’s why I said likely! Are you on repeat?
Well, at least you’ve moved on for your previous position that Biden had rescheduled cannabis. Because you knew every last time you repeated it that it was a fucking lie.
Cannabis is still Schedule I, where you and Crime Bill Biden love it.
And that’s why I said likely!
For anyone wondering, months ago I said that Biden rescheduled marijuana. I said you can say that I was a little ahead of the ball on that. But Mr Crab got suuuppeeerrr mad, yelling and screaming at me for months, and still going! I think he’s at 4 months now! You’d think that lack of rescheduling raped and killed his mother or something.
Ah and we have your strawman! Still can’t break that AND operator huh! For anyone wondering, Mr Crab is intent on calling people centrists.
Because you expect people who know better to buy that cannabis is “likely” to be rescheduled in the next month? Come on dude.
Biden didn’t reschedule cannabis. It’s still Schedule I. Where it will remain until the end of his term. Where he always intended it to stay.
He did not, as you asserted, reschedule it. That was a lie. You didn’t “get a little bit ahead of the ball.” That ball ain’t moving and it was never going to. It was just a lie. That’s all it ever was and all it will ever be. You. Lied.
I’m not sure why you think this makes any more sense than last time.
Anyway, I’m out. You’re just trying to provoke a slapfight.
EDIT: They always keep trying when you say you’re leaving. Now he’s whining about downvotes and making conspiracy allegations.
The other guy explained the process perfectly so I won’t bother.
Says the guy that’s been trying to slap me for months, over a simple being ahead of the ball lol. If there’s any doubt, I mean just look at the reply above.
And operator https://lemmy.world/comment/13707089 It’s even bolded.
I also like how all of my comments suddenly went down 5, and yours went up 5. Yup. Same with the other guy in the chain.
EDIT: As if saying you’re leaving means people aren’t allowed to respond lol. There’s layers to your edit too.
Did he do some things? Sure.
Did he do nearly enough? No.