• DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Normally I’m not a “lesser of two evils” type, but nuclear is such an immensely lesser evil compared to coal and oil that it’s insane people are still against it.

    • MrMukagee@lemmynsfw.com
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      1 year ago

      Especially when you start counting the number of people that have died either directly or indirectly from coal, oil and every fossil fuel.

      If your extrapolate the data into the next hundred years … fossil fuels will have responsible for the deaths of billions.

      Compared to nuclear energy … fossil fuels is killing us slowly and will kill us all if we don’t stop using them.

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      1 year ago

      I spoke with a far left friend of mine about this. His position essentially boiled down to the risk of a massive nuclear disaster outweighed the benefits. I said what about the known disastrous consequences of coal and oil? Didn’t really have a response to that. It doesn’t make sense to me. I’ll roll those dice and take the .00001% chance risk or whatever.

      • normalmighty@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Yeah, nuclear is to fossil fuels as planes are to cars, safety wise. Sure it’s a huge deal when an accident occurs, but that’s because accidents are drastically more rare.

      • whogivesashit@lemmygrad.ml
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        1 year ago

        Nuclear is fantastic and would have been even more fantastic 30 years ago. But it’s 2023 and renewables are getting better every day. There’s just no real reason to not invest primarily in green energy sources, especially when the track record on nuclear waste management is abysmal. People will say “oh but the resources, oh but the storage, oh but the blah blah blah”. We act like these things can’t be done, but they are being done all over the place. While the US argues about whether solar is viable, China has almost produced more solar panels in a year than the US has ever produced. And they are planning to try and deliver to other countries with less productive capacity as well.

        • solstice@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          I love the nuclear waste storage argument. Wouldn’t it be grand if we could just stick it in the atmosphere like we do with coal and oil? Smh…

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            1 year ago

            Thing is bad, therefore other things that’s not as bad is good. Yo your brain is fucking melted lmao

            • solstice@lemmy.world
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              1 year ago

              8 day old account, second post is to be an asshole to me for no reason. Classy. You’re either a bot or another shitty lemming. You’ll fit right in here with all the other insufferable shitheads in this forum.

        • solstice@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Ironic argument for someone in a country where you can buy actual assault weapons over the counter, isn’t it?

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              1 year ago

              I researched and it turns out no fully automatic weapons have been available for a few decades now. Tightly controlled. Semi automatic is just as lethal though. Also apparently the las vegas shooter in 2018 use bump stocks on his semi automatics which makes it pseudo automatic if you’ll pardon the pun. Notably, the DOJ announced this bump stock reg in 2018, under the Trump administration. Interesting, but not surprising, that the insane right didn’t lose their shit about “muh gunz” when it happened under Trump’s reign.

              • CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works
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                1 year ago

                Nah the reason people didn’t make much noise about bump stocks is because they’re terrible. They are purely something you might do for entertainment rather than any serious attempt to shoot; they really hurt accuracy and comfort.

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              1 year ago

              You’re right my bad. I know Americans are pretty bad about that on the Internet. I try not to be but in my defense I was thinking about that friend and projected him onto your comment.

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      1 year ago

      Coal plants gives more radiation through radioactive mercury as a left over from processign

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      1 year ago

      I think you’re misreading the room. People are against nuclear because they’re for renewables, not because they’re for fossil fuels.