They have 16GB of RAM physically, 3GB is reserved for AI. So yeah, only 13GB is usable by regular apps, even if you don’t care about any of the AI stuff.
Have you noticed how expensive these things have gotten? Doesn’t it seems like charging you for more RAM than it necessary and then locking 20% of it away for “features” no one wants is a bad thing?
I think it’s likely you would have access to all of it because the testing in the article clearly shows the kernel can see the memory. Thus, the graphene kernel should be able to use it.
It’s not about a single app, it’s about multitasking without having to reload apps.
At various times I’ve juggled between 4 apps at once on my phone. Say something like Messaging, Firefox, maybe a lemmy app, and Bitwarden for logging into something.
Yeah but… I have a Pixel 6 with 8gb RAM. I just checked the memory usage. Over the past day, average usage has been about 4gb. And the biggest user is Android itself at 1.8gb. The next biggest is Instagram at 285mb, and that’s with me scrolling videos when I’m bored.
Adding hardware just for the sake of it just means it’s costing people for features they almost certainly won’t use.
Yes. Lots of people here have much less than even 13GB physical ram. My Pixel 4a has 6GB. So reading a news about how apps have “only” access to 13GB sounds just weird when that’s more than twice the total ram you have available.
Only?
They have 16GB of RAM physically, 3GB is reserved for AI. So yeah, only 13GB is usable by regular apps, even if you don’t care about any of the AI stuff.
Seriously, what app is capable of saturating 13GB?
So then why does it have 16GB?
Have you noticed how expensive these things have gotten? Doesn’t it seems like charging you for more RAM than it necessary and then locking 20% of it away for “features” no one wants is a bad thing?
What if we use graphene OS I would guess that RAM would not be longer use and you can use the full 16GB.
I think it’s likely you would have access to all of it because the testing in the article clearly shows the kernel can see the memory. Thus, the graphene kernel should be able to use it.
I have no idea.
It’s not about a single app, it’s about multitasking without having to reload apps.
At various times I’ve juggled between 4 apps at once on my phone. Say something like Messaging, Firefox, maybe a lemmy app, and Bitwarden for logging into something.
Me too, and I’ve never had an issue juggling those apps on my Pixel 6 with 8gb RAM.
At that point I go to my PC.
Adding to what others said it is beneficial to load an app from RAM.
Yeah but… I have a Pixel 6 with 8gb RAM. I just checked the memory usage. Over the past day, average usage has been about 4gb. And the biggest user is Android itself at 1.8gb. The next biggest is Instagram at 285mb, and that’s with me scrolling videos when I’m bored.
Adding hardware just for the sake of it just means it’s costing people for features they almost certainly won’t use.
I think it’s more to do with app switching without having to reload or losing your state in minimized apps.
If this is enabled by default it’ll certainly be needed, especially in cases like multitasking.
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2024/08/adding-16-kb-page-size-to-android.html?m=1
From the linked article. So I doubt that the larger page size is the (only) reason for 16G ram. AI is the more likely reason.
Ooh I understand that it’s for AI, I just meant that more RAM would certainly help in this case.
Ollama server running in termux
I assume 13GB shared with all active apps and not 13 per app.
I know how RAM works
Sure about that?
https://fedia.io/m/android@lemdro.id/t/1119259/Tested-Google-s-Pixel-9-Pro-models-only-have-13GB-RAM/comment/6949769#entry-comment-6949769
Yes. Lots of people here have much less than even 13GB physical ram. My Pixel 4a has 6GB. So reading a news about how apps have “only” access to 13GB sounds just weird when that’s more than twice the total ram you have available.
I agree about that but it’s stupid that you only have access to 13 of 16 GB.
If there’s no way to disable the LLM then yes, I agree.
Barely enough for the OS and one app