Without evidence, the Republican vice presidential candidate tried to cast doubt on his opponentā€™s obvious momentum: ā€œIf you talk to insiders in the Kamala Harris campaign, theyā€™re very worried about where they areā€

Youā€™ve heardĀ Donald Trump cryĀ ā€œfakenewsā€ too many times to count, and now his running mate is claiming ā€” without evidence ā€” that the media is using ā€œfake pollsā€ to show Vice PresidentĀ Kamala Harris is in the lead in the presidential race.

In an interview onĀ Fox News Sunday, Sen.Ā J.D. Vance alleged that ā€œThe media uses fake polls to drive down Republican turnout and to create dissension and conflict with Republican voters.ā€

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    So what Iā€™m not understanding, is what happens when they arenā€™t elected and they remain unable to do basic math.

    They seem to really putting all their eggs into the basket of ā€œnumbers are fake, do our biddingā€ but somehow fail to realize without the numbers they wonā€™t have support?

    Like they really think they have enough weird dudes with too many guns to out gun and out fight the military that is currently under Bidenā€™s control?

    Also, have they accounted for the fact that the number of armed crazies gets even smaller when the crazies realize they donā€™t get paid for fighting?

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      Like they really think they have enough weird dudes with too many guns to out gun and out fight the military that is currently under Bidenā€™s control?

      That is debatable. Yes, Biden is the CiC. But assuming that the militaryā€“which skews conservative (and enlisted people skew very conservative)ā€“is going to follow orders across the board if thereā€™s a genuine civil war is perhaps a bit naive. The US Civil war saw a number of generals and higher-level officers defect to the CAS, and I would expect that weā€™d see the same kind of thing now.

      My point is, it needs to be an undeniable win for Dems, something so overwhelming that there canā€™t be any reasonable questions.

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        The military is more liberal than you think. Yeah their area shit heads in every org and a 18 year old private is always going to be stupid and buy that charger and say stupid shit. But the NCO rank and file are not the same old guard from the 80s and the army is making changes to appeal to GenZ to help with recruitment. E.G base name changes and leave requests for family planning, etc. But also Vets that have been down range got to know groups liked the Kurds and are very pissed what Trump did to them.

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          I just visited my ex-FiL at the VA hospital and heā€™s telling people that now that heā€™s sitting around watching TV, he realizeshr can no longer think of himself as Conservative because heā€™s liberal as hell relative to MAGAts

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          While I would hope so, Iā€™ve known more than a few vets. A few are fairly moderate to liberal, but a whole bunch are MAGAts. Maybe thatā€™s just because I do as many 2-gun competitions as I can, and the MAGAt vet-bros are self-selecting to be there because they didnā€™t do enough run-and-gun when they were in the military, IDK.

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            yeah I can see that self selecting is to blame. Most of the Vets I know after I got out that are more liberal you canā€™t even tell they are a Vet. It the people that make the military their core identity. Like the idiots that wear tactical gear and special forces t-shirts. Like the last thing I ever want to see is a plate carrier or ruck again lol. Those combat ball caps they sell at the VA are so cringe itā€™s worse when they are under the age of 70 wearing them.

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              Like the last thing I ever want to see is a plate carrier or ruck again lol.

              Ha, and I do it for fun. But I think that the plate + carrier loadout I wear in two gun is a lot lighter and less restrictive than the IOTV and full combat load. I also donā€™t have people shooting at me or have to worry about frag, because 2-gun in fundamentally a game.

              But even most of the vets Iā€™ve known outside of that were generally more conservative than the general population. It could be the area Iā€™m in; Iā€™m in the deep south. But even when I was Illinois, the people that I knew were vetsā€“and not the vet-bro stereotypeā€“trended more conservative than not.

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                lol you do you I guess Iā€™m just not high speed, lol Were they active duty or retired? Also I noticed that Guard skewed more conservative than AD but donā€™t know why. Honestly i think that might be my dad was republican so I guess I am too but that would align the same with civilian population.