• apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Yeah I was simply making the point about Israel being the primary cause for this conflict using the uncited and perhaps made up quote from the article. “If Hezbollah can build tunnels, why can’t they provide electricity and water to their communities?”

    The tunnels made or perhaps not made by Hamas Houthi Hezbollah are always used as a reason to bomb.

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      Don’t forget that those tunnels were originally built to escape the blockade of Gaza imposed by Israel. They were originally built to smuggle goods in and out of Gaza.

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        Yep, can’t have anyone providing aid to the people they are genociding. More to the point, the existence of the tunnels is irrelevent. They may exist; they might not exist for a particular IDF campaign. Bringing them up in media is clearly a proven mechanism for manufacturing consent. No fact checking required, what the IDF says goes.

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          These tunnels exist long before Hamas, they were not used to smuggling weapons, etc. back then.

          The blockade of the Gaza Strip has caused a shortage of certain basic products, especially construction materials, fuel, some consumer articles, and medicines and medical supplies.[8][9] Import restrictions, including of basic building materials, have led to the proliferation of tunnels under the border with Egypt.[10][11] As Israel limits the Palestinian freedom of movement, for most Gazans the tunnels are the only way to move from and to Gaza.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip_smuggling_tunnels

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      If the tunnels are used for military purposes then that is a reason to bomb them. That goes for any place. If they use a hospital as a weapons cache, that hospital becomes a legitimate target. Same if it is a mosque, a school etc. Using civilians as human shields is in itself a war crime.

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        If the tunnels are used for military purposes then that is a reason to bomb them

        Like the Nazis did during Ghetto uprising?

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          Like any military would do no matter what the country. Using the tunnels to move weapons literally makes them a legitimate military target. Perhaps you need to read up on the rules of war.

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            1 month ago

            Complete rubbish. Any side has a duty of minimalising civilian casualties. You cannot kill 10 civilians to destroy one combatant or piece of arm. Furthermore, Israel is an occupational force so any resistance against them is legitimate, unlike the occupation of Palestinian lands.

            Unless of course you are a Nazi - as they used to do that during Ghetto uprising. And now they are doing it again, this time to inflict genocide on Palestinians.