• ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place
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        1 month ago

        I don’t see why. I’m not saying what happened to him was deserved. I’m just saying that expecting a country like Qatar, with a not short list of human rights violations (among the things) , accepts they violated human rights of a gay foreigner (and yeah, this is relevant for a country that hates both gays and foreigners) is unreasonable.

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          1 month ago

          You’re hyperfocusing on criticizing the man who was just tortured for being gay instead of looking at the broader context of what happened, or trying to consider how you would react in that situation. Being victimised in this way is absolutely fucking horrible, and it fucks you up forever. I reacted very similarly to situations where I was victimised for being queer, and those were nothing like what this man has been through.

          It’s impossible to imagine what this man has been through in any meaningful way, but you should take a bit to just think about what this man went through, how badly he’s been hurt to need to go to Qatar to find work, and the defeat he must feel knowing that he is forever changed by an experience that nobody will recognize or do anything about.

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              1 month ago

              I said nothing about condoning, I asked you to empathize with a man who was just tortured. The fact that you’re getting so upset over that says a lot about you. There’s a reason you like to criticize the gay man and not the homophobic government that tortures people.

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                1 month ago

                I think you’re misunderstanding me explaining in detail my point of view with being upset. I’m not upset at all. As a matter of fact, I don’t even know the guy, so why should I? Something that shouldn’t happen in 2024, happened. And it’s regrettable.

                At the same time, it was something completely avoidable. So while I regret this thing happened because it shouldn’t, I can’t help but to point out how stupid it was to suffer this from a totally avoidable situation.

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                  1 month ago

                  And I think it’s kinda fucked up that you’re clearly bothered that this man said he was disappointed with how he was treated but you don’t care about how he was treated. You can say you’re not upset as much as you want but the fact is that you’ve literally been victim blaming him for over an hour now. You can just say you don’t like queers, you don’t need to beat around the bush.

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                    1 month ago

                    Mate, it really seems you are the one very bothered for the point of view of an internet stranger. Especially when all I said to cause you this is that it’s unreasonable to expect that a country like Qatar accepts they violated human rights.

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        1 month ago

        Likewise I think your blind ignorance of how stupid it is to go to a country like Qatar while gay is pretty fucked up and gonna cost other people the same fate.