• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    What a fucking joke. It’s amazing how all these countries set weak goals for themselves and then fail anyway.

    We’re all going to die lol

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      1 year ago

      The UK likes to go the other way by talking up a ridiculous goal and then immediately failing it, like "Our goal is to produce zero CO2 and become the global leader in renewables by 2025” and then immediately open a new coal mine.

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      1 year ago

      It’s amazing how all these countries set weak goal

      It’s can kicking. Make a promise for something 25 years in the future. Who cares if the country can’t meet it? You’ll likely be out of office or retired by that point. That’s the next person’s problem.

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        1 year ago

        That’s the next person’s problem.

        it is until people start getting organized and seeking justice on those responsible

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      1 year ago

      Yes, but the goals in germany are written into a law, and the highest council actually blaming the government for failed goals.

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        1 year ago

        Still not gonna change a damn thing. The (federal) government(s) don’t care, they are busy framing harmless protesters as potential terrorists and jailing them accordingly. Or they simply change the law again so that they do not have to be held accountable for their missed goals (see the ministry for transport).

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      1 year ago

      I’m much more optimistic, though I do think it will get worse before it gets better. I think we’ll end up with a few mass killer enviromental events before humans start to save themselves properly. It’ll never be too late as Earth is always going to better than anywhere else for us.

      Quick list of things hopeful in my feeds of the top of my head.

      • Renewable energy is the cheapest energy.
      • Agrivoltaics can increase yeilds while also providing power.
      • Home Solar & battery pay back time is coming down all the time.
      • Electric cars are the cheapest over their life time and the upfront costs are tumbling.
      • Electrification of more and more transport types is happening to save costs.
      • EVs are going V2H/V2G/V2X which means you get a large home (and office?) battery to take part in energy markets.
      • Second life EV batteries will eventury be a source of larger, cheaper, home batteries.
      • Just the other day another methane solution : https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/aug/22/bacteria-that-eats-methane-could-slow-global-heating-study-finds
      • Fusion looks closer than 50 years out now.
      • RightToRepair + OpenSource is slowly spreading and will reduce life time costs and reduce e-waste. Regulators are waking up too.
      • Vertical farming is developing and will end up cheaper.
      • Lab meat or precision fermentation is a path to animal free animal protein at lower costs.
      • 5 minute cities as an idea is spreading.
      • Covid has normalized WFH
      • Green spaces in cities to cool them and improve mental health is increasingly being talked about and pushed in some forward thinking cities.
      • Peak population is constantly revised down and sooner. Once population starts to fall, it’s not set to stop for a long time.

      There is a lot of movement. It’s all about aligning economics with fighting climate change. Which is natural as using less to do the same thing is better for both.

      One thing that is a very good sign is oil companies are scared. They are spending a lot of money pumping out FUD. Doom peddling to slow climate action, but economics is against them. Even without climate damage being costed in. Which governments will do when oil is less powerful.

      Fight the doom!

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        1 year ago

        Some of the things you listed are indeed good, but we’re not going to avert climate catastrophe unless we reject the idea that we can only do good things if they’re less expensive than the bad thing alternative.

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      1 year ago

      We’re all going to die lol

      I agree … but that attitude also encourages people, especially leaders … and especially the billionaires that control this world … to believe that destruction is the ultimate end and to just play along, pick up as much wealth as possible while you can and do whatever you please because the end is near.

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          You kid, but we’re not gonna get greenhouse gases under control. We’re gonna find a way to stabilize temps and kick the can down the road to the next issue co2 causes.

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            1 year ago

            That’s fallacious reasoning.

            Just because climate engineering is the only way to stabilize temperatures doesn’t actually mean it can be done. That’s all hypothetical tech, just like carbon capture and other fairy tales we tell ourselves to cope with the reality of the end of the fucking world.

            I’ll tell you what will happen. We won’t do anything to stop or slow climate change and we’ll reach a tipping point, after which society will rapidly collapse into warring factions and any hope of stabilizing the climate will be gone until we have a nuclear winter reset.