• M0oP0o@mander.xyz
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    2 years ago

    Wait, am I reading this right that the plane was shot down by russian air defence? If this is backed up at all by anything like a russian source, then this will just further enforce option that russia can not be trusted to do anything it says and that putin is weak and threatened (both are true but I thought the kremlin would at least try to say/show otherwise).

    How does russia keep messing up this bad? I am constantly shocked and awed.

      • cpjoa@discuss.tchncs.de
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        2 years ago

        One side uses its legal system to deal with an institutional threat, while the other performatively offers an olive branch and then stabs them on the back. Not quite the same. One side smells a lot like a mafia

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          2 years ago

          The USA has always been a fascist country (just ask Native Americans and descendants of slaves). If you think slapping a few leaders on the wrist is going to stop fascism here, I would invite you to have a look at the history of Weimar Germany.

    • JohnBrownsBussy2 [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      I don’t understand the logic here. When the putsch occured and then ignomously fizzled out, I saw Putin as weak for letting Pringles walk out with a (relative) slap on the wrist. Taking Prigo out of the picture was overdue. Obviously, anyone would feel threatened by an semi-autonomous mercenary army, so removing its leadership and breaking it up is just a rational course of action that probably should have been done sooner from that POV

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        2 years ago

        If they took him out before the deal was made sure, this soon after just shows weakness and a lack of credibility. They did the equivalent to getting into a bar fight, talking it out instead and then in front of every one sucker punching the other guy.

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            They were losing a war to a bunch of tractors and their flagship was sunk by a country without a navy.

            It’s not Russian weakness, it’s Russian stupidity.

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              2 years ago

              were? so you admit that Russia is winning?

              besides, this is not what this thread is about, go cope to someone who cares

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                No, they were losing to tractors, and Moskva was sunk without a navy.

                Now they’re getting real gear and training to play.

                The only thing Russia ever wins are Darwin awards. Fucking being proud of almost hurting a country a fraction of your size right next door, like the US being proud of conquering Ottawa.

                Say hi to those F-16s for me.

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                    2 years ago

                    Yes… I am the propagandized one.

                    Not the rural poor being marched off to die for half the price of a lada they’ll never receive for an oligarch’s pride.

                    All I can say is: Please, PLEASE! Make sure they keep marching.