Pelosi calls Trump ā€˜unhingedā€™ and reveals exchange with doctors at 2019 memorial for top psychiatrist

In early 2019, at a memorial service for a prominent psychiatrist, a succession of ā€œdoctors and other mental health professionalsā€ told Nancy Pelosi they were ā€œdeeply concerned that there was something seriously wrongā€ withĀ Donald Trump, ā€œand that his mental and psychological health was in declineā€.

ā€œIā€™m not a doctor,ā€ the former speaker writes in an eagerly awaited memoir, ā€œbut I did find his behaviors difficult to understand.ā€

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    3 months ago

    So itā€™s your prerogative to extend that to Pelosi or not, which I donā€™t particularly care about, but that doesnā€™t change the point about Trump.

    To clarify, I think anyone over 80 (even Bernie) is too old to hold important political office.

    What Iā€™m saying is when Pelosi says trump is too old, it means as much to the average person as if Trump says Pelosi is too old.

    Anyone under 70 is free to shout it from the mountain tops. And even Jimmy Carter since heā€™s not holding office.

    Do you not understand why Pelosi saying this wonā€™t change a single personā€™s mind?

    The only people who tolerate hypocrisy, are voting trump.

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      Pelosi saying this wouldnā€™t change anybodyā€™s mind if she was a teenager. Constant reinforcement from multiple sources and repeated reasons for the narrative to be present in media may change the perception over time.

      The headline is the goal here. The headline exists, the goal is accomplished. Now you need a few hundred headlines like that one from different sources based on different causes.

      Just to be absolutely clear, Pelosi was a major player in doing this exact thing to Biden. It was less than two weeks ago. We need to start having some object persistence at some point.

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        3 months ago

        Pelosi saying this wouldnā€™t change anybodyā€™s mind if she was a teenager

        Youā€™re thinking of ā€œchange someoneā€™s mindā€ like, convince them to change their vote.

        Iā€™m talking ā€œchange someoneā€™s mindā€ as in getting someone to vote who currently thinks both sides are the same.

        Look at Kamala, sheā€™s pretty much saying the same stuff Biden was saying about trump. But because sheā€™s a functional adult it means more and people are jumping out of the woodworks to endorse herā€¦

        Thatā€™s a huge example of how the person saying something matters.

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          It certainly is a huge example of how the person running matters, and of how this stuff is, unfortunately, a matter of perception.

          Which is to say, there is now a big incentive for all dems to keep hammering on the obvious point that Trump was a barely functioning idiot at his best and now heā€™s an old barely functioning idiot. The age of the person saying it only matters if youā€™re going to get in an argument about it, but if Pelosiā€™s book can get this into a headline, itā€™s certainly a valid hit on that front.

          Because, again, if youā€™re a normie willing to vote democrat that is driven by image, not policy, it is way more relevant to get the message on as many places and as frequently as possible, nuance be damned.

          And if youā€™re not, and you want to argue on the merits of the argument and not do armchair political strategy on the Internet, the fact that Trump is entirely unfit for the job is obvious in any case.

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            3 months ago

            but if Pelosiā€™s book can get this into a headline, itā€™s certainly a valid hit on that front.

            But of the people who havenā€™t decided to vote, how many would hear of this?

            How many are reading political articles but canā€™t decide who to vote for?

            This ainā€™t outreach, itā€™s inreach. Which isnā€™t even a word, because itā€™s a pointless endeavor

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              Itā€™s The Guardian. Itā€™s sitting right there on the cover of the US edition right below their live politics ticker currently titled ā€œTrump criticized by Republicans and Democrats after questioning Harrisā€™s racial identity ā€“ liveā€.

              Iā€™m gonna guess tons of people saw that headline, read it, and that was the last piece of engagement they had with this.

              Which is why you need one of these up on major newspapers every day.

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                Which is why you need one of these up on major newspapers every day.

                You think the majority of Americans who arenā€™t already voting read Newspapers everyday?

                Specifically a British one?

                Iā€™m not going to spend anymore time explaining this, itā€™s clearly not working.

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                  That pice is actually not in the UK edition. The Guardian publishes a specific edition for the US, hence the American spelling on that one. My understanding is they have some reach, apparently. You made me look it up, their advertising brochure has them being about half the size of the Washington Post in the US.

                  Not that it matters for the issue at hand, but itā€™s an interesting factoid.