Part of this is that I’m new, a Reddit refugee, and still learning my way around.

Part of it was prompted by Beehaw’s choice to defederate with lemmy.world & other instances - there’s a clear disagreement on how to keep difficult people from dropping turds in the punch bowl.

And part of it is from watching the enshittification of Reddit.

Perhaps it would be a good idea to set up a nonprofit organization for the purpose of promoting independent distributed social media. Conceivably, it could fundraise to help keep servers alive, have some people promoting the Fediverse elsewhere on the Internet, lobby and keep lawyers handy to keep government from squelching free speech. Something along the lines of EFF or FSF.

There could be a mutual agreement among members on ground rules for users (for example, requiring all member instances to ban/block/delete hate speech). Or it can operate services like anti-spam/anti-hate blocklists so mods have better tools to keep the riffraff out. And it can serve as a venue to resolve disputes in a civil way.

And I say it needs to be a nonprofit so it’s enshittification resistant. For-profit companies are required by law to maximize profit for owners/shareholders, which makes enshittification inevitable. A nonprofit’s mission in life is to perform beneficial things for the community, be it stopping teen suicide, running an orchestra, or promoting independent social media.

Just my random brainfart, I’m sure half of this has already been done.

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    Non-profits are not an antidote to corporate control. Non-profits rely on grants which are typically coming from corporations or governments, with strings attached. While there are a handful of legit non-profits, the majority of them are just ways for people with money to burn to expand their influence on various issues. Especially when they are focused on setting standards like this, as opposed to turning donations directly into meals / supplies / shelters etc.

    There have been discussions of doing this on Mastodon as well, but they have been met with resistance. There are several instances which have incorporated themselves as one form of non-profit or another (depending on jurisdiction), but the centralization of block-lists or introduction of federation-wide governance bodies has not taken off for various reasons.

    In general, it is good practice to look at the block-lists from a few instances you vibe with and use that as a starting point, but realize when it comes to politics, everyone is a crank and that simply copy/pasting their lists isn’t the greatest approach. A lot of instances are shit and belong on those lists (the bigots), but several end up there because people are allergic to nuance, while several are omitted because people think a subject is nuanced when it really isn’t.

    Also, I wouldn’t worry about an instance getting too big at this stage. Some communities are big. Some communities are small. Some have irreconcilable differences. As we stumble upon these differences, there will be splits. New instances get started up every day. People will have disagreements about the way admins / mods handle things. This is how it goes. Having 100,000 homogeneous instances of equal size does not indicate a healthy network. The way these things split and group up is driven by culture and politics. The ideal place to land has nothing to do with the size of the instance, but your trust that the administration won’t cleave your community in half for arbitrary reasons.