The Democratic Socialists of America pulled its endorsement of Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York this week, accusing the progressive congresswoman of being insufficiently supportive of the Palestinian cause and efforts to end the war in Gaza…

Her approach has increasingly strained her relationship with some of the left’s most strident critics of Israel. When she rallied last month in the Bronx with Senator Bernie Sanders and Representative Jamaal Bowman, dozens of pro-Palestinian demonstrators angry over her endorsement of Mr. Biden chanted “You’re a fraud, A.O.C.”

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      The easiest way to piss off pugjesus is to expect politicians to oppose genocide everywhere, not just at home.

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          Genocide at home upsets you … except when I mention the AIDs crisis and you claim that Trump is a uniquely terrible politician.

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          Sorry that genocide at home upsets me.

          Sorry that you feel the need to advocate for genocide abroad.

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                  The only reason Biden is sending fewer weapons to Israel than Trump might, is because he is marginally responsive to the criticism you denounce people for.

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                  And the assumption that anyone who is critical at all of Biden’s support for the genocide must be a trumpist.

                  Since you can’t defend your advocacy for genocide any other way, you have to spam false accusations against anyone who dares to insist that the lives of Gazans have value even when a Democrat is president.

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                    And the assumption that anyone who is critical at all of Biden’s support for the genocide must be a trumpist.

                    Oh, of course, you don’t SUPPORT a Trump presidency, you’re just interested in passively allowing it, and all the genocide that it entails. When we go in the camps, you’ll sit happy at home and muse on just how moral you’ve managed to be by fighting the Dem candidate at every turn.

                    You’re almost indistinguishable from the fascists that support him. Certainly indistinguishable in your disregard for Palestinian and American minority lives.

                    Since you can’t defend your advocacy for genocide any other way,

                    Me: “Israeli is a genocidal apartheid state, we should remove all aid.”

                    Clearly this is the position of a genocidal maniac.

                    But tell me more about how purity testing AOC, one of the leftmost and pro-Palestinian politicians in our legislature, is a GOOD thing for Palestine, Actually.

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        What exactly do you think is going to happen under a renewed Trump administration? Day one dictator, Project 2025, any of this ringing genocide bells?

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            Oh, of course, the DSA endorsing a fascist legislature is MUCH better and completely unrelated, my bad.

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                What exactly do you think happens when you are (supposedly) important enough to sway an election and pull support away from antifascist candidates for not being 100% in line with your views when the opposition is a literal fucking fascist party?

                Like, this isn’t trigonometry.

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                  I wish DSA was important enough to swing more than a handful of local elections lol. She won her primary (against a fellow Democrat, by definition) with 80% of the vote. I say this with love, I don’t think you have any clue what you’re talking about? Even in the context of the general election, NY-14 is like +40 D. She’s still going to win. Thank you, I guess, for accurately pointing out DSA’s calculus in strategically endorsing and not endorsing candidates so as to not sink popular candidates while also building coalitions with Palestinian organizations?

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                    Okay, so we’re arguing from the presumption instead that the DSA is completely pointless in the matter of AOC’s election and re-election, is this correct? I want to make sure I’m understanding this correctly, because other posters in this very thread have arguing the literal opposite.