A growing number of Democrats are calling on the president to drop out of the 2024 election.

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    4 months ago

    Bots who did not like Joe Biden still do not like Joe Biden, but now differently. That’s obvious. However, people who did like Joe Biden are starting to ask questions after that debate. That is new.

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      And that’s the purpose, isn’t it? A bot worth their own weight will be at least slightly convincing enough to persuade at least a few people.

      And they’re getting a good push from the media frenzy attacking him like he’s a sick shark.

      But whatever keeps the power on, right? American democracy can implode as long as news media makes a fortune off of an old guy in a debate against a convicted rapist/felon that didn’t even answer one question honestly. I mean…

      It’s a no brainer that the rapist did SO MUCH BETTER!

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        It’s also possible that people saw the debate and started asking questions on their own. Not everything is the media, the candidate is a problem.

        FWIW, I do not want Donald Trump to be president and I would just prefer a D candidate who is still mentally with it.

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          We’re at the point where we take ANYTHING over Trump.

          People are going to get hurt. I’ll take ineffective over a convicted rapist/felon any fucking day.

          If people don’t like this, maybe they should may attention and do more than whine every four years.

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            I think the point is that we shouldn’t have to vote for an ineffective leader to avoid a fascist convict. Out of 300 million people, we should be able to find at least one who can move the country in a positive direction.

            And, for the record, I’m not a bot…just a millennial who’s sick and tired of this bullshit.

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              look man, I get it. But sadly the point is- we do have to.

              What we “shouldn’t have to do” is irrelevant. Becasue that’s a daydream.

              And the reason why is as I said, there’s a ton of people that only become politically active every four years. And all they do is whine and yell at everyone who’s trying to keep the ship afloat that they should “put more holes in it if they want to keep things going.”

              Because not voting is exactly how things change. Note how history is rife with people staying home during events that changed history.

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                Becasue that’s a daydream.

                It’s an ideal. Which is exactly what we should be striving for. We shouldn’t have to settle for an octogenarian, ineffective leader just because. The man is losing in every poll and, chances are, he’ll end up costing us the election – worse; the country.

                I understand why Democrats consistently settle for less than they’re worth, but fuck man…time is short. We need to stop fucking settling. If not for us, for our kids and their kids. Because if we just keep settling for “good enough,” we won’t have anymore “daydreams”; we’ll be living in a complete and total nightmare.

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                  It’s too late for ideals. Can you not see that? We have far too many people that slack-ass for four years at a time and then demand change?

                  It doesn’t work that way.

                  They want the benefits without having to do anything but whine for it- then they want to know how we got here. The system sucks. But whining about it and staring home during elections isn’t how it gets fixed.

                  But they know that.

                  So they’re demanding now that shit changes without the need to actually do the work. Essentially, democracy is being held hostage by people that won’t lift a finger to fix it.

                  Ideals would be nice if everyone payed attention and did their fair share so that we wouldn’t have to chose between the crypt keeper and a rapist-felon.

                  But that’s where we are now. So it’s either shit, or get of the pot so it can be fed to you.

                  I’d rather shit.

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                    I don’t know, man. The way I see it, you (and those who are still blindly supporting the ghoul) are bigger whiners than anyone.

                    You see the cognitive decline, but you don’t want a messy primary. So you close your eyes and tell everyone to keep voting for him. Worse; you attack those who want change - who want to “actually do the work.”

                    And to say people aren’t “doing their fair share” is preposterous. The DNC didn’t primary Biden. How are we supposed to do something about him, when a tiny group of people selected our candidate for us. Your answer is to just “grin and bear it?”

                    Do you have any idea of what that does? It creates an electorate that is alienated and doesn’t vote. Congrats…you’ve whined us right into a fascist state! Hope it was worth not upsetting the apple cart.

                    Seriously, what would the founders say about this approach? Brave men and women who risked their lives, watching the most spoiled group of whiners and social media junkies destroy the government they fought for through inaction. I’m sorry, but that’s not who we are. We must take action, we must call for Biden (and Trump) to quit, and we must find two competent adults to run this race. And if we can’t? Well, that tells us this little experiment is over.