All new cars must have the devices from 7 July, adding fuel economy as well as safety. Will mpg become the new mph?

In the highway code and the law courts, there is no doubt what those big numbers in red circles mean. As a quick trip up any urban street or motorway with no enforcement cameras makes clear though, many drivers still regard speed signs as an aspiration rather than a limit.

Technology that will be required across Europe from this weekend may change that culture, because from 7 July all new cars sold in the EU and in Northern Ireland must have a range of technical safety features fitted as standard. The most notable of these is intelligent speed assistance – or colloquially, a speed limiter.

The rest of the UK is theoretically free, as ministers once liked to put it, to make the most of its post-Brexit freedoms, but the integrated nature of car manufacturing means new vehicles here will also be telling their drivers to take their foot off the accelerator. Combining satnav maps with a forward camera to read the road signs, they will automatically sound an alarm if driven too fast for the zone they are in.

  • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    Is it a little beep or a constant alarm? I can’t imagine that many drivers would tolerate having a constant alarm.

    I’m in the USA and my impression here is that currently safety advocates are happy to set very low speed limits, drivers are happy to ignore those speed limits, and so everything works out. If speed limits were actually consistently enforced, I imagine there would be a lot of push-back against the politicians responsible.

    We need to breed a new generation of drivers who find driving in a more relaxed manner can be just as rewarding.

    I don’t see that happening.

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      4 months ago

      Road engineers are happy to design streets to encourage higher speeds than is safe as well.

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        Come to my town. If you obey the speed limit you hit almost every light on red. Do 5-10 mph over and you hit most on green.

        If you are at a red, the light will not change most times until there is a decent amount of traffic coming from another direction. When they get closer, they will get a red and you get a green. Making them stop.

        I want to meet the idiots who designed this system.

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          Sounds like it should be the exact opposite. In a road in a city near here they have leds installed in the streets and everything set for a green wave. If you drive in the green zone of the LEDs, you will have all lights green. It was a proof of concept and pretty cool imho.

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            Many cities try that. However it is very hard to pull that off when you have two way traffic, and busy cross streets make it worth. Two way traffic often means one direction has no cars, but the other does because the distance between lights is not something in control of the traffic engineers. And cross traffic means you need to handle the whole grid at once.

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        4 months ago

        In the Netherlands we have traffic calming stuff everywhere. The result is that there is very little speeding going on. Distracted driving is another matter though…

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      4 months ago

      there are many people who don’t want to drive, don’t care about the act of driving, and don’t respect the vehicle.
      it would help if these people weren’t forced to drive.

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      The speed limits are low because nobody respects them anyway. You could make actual meaningful speed limits if everyone would drive them.

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        I think people drive at speeds their comfortable with not some arbitrary number over any posted limit. In my state, they limit freeway speeds to 65MPH but I’ll usually do 75-80MPH in a big chain with all the other people commuting. Last time we were in Montana, the posted limit was 80MPH and I still only drove 75-80MPH because I feel comfortable at that speed.

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      4 months ago

      Probably a constant ding sound. At least that’s how it used to be on some vehicles if you exceeded a certain speed in Japan.

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      Yeah in one of my previous cars you could set a speed above which the car would warn. I tried it and above the set speed the alarm would constantly sound. This was probably the initial implementation. The car also had an assist camera to avoid low speed collisions. So all the tech was already in the car… that was a Skoda from 2013.