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Just my tin-foil hat opinion, but if anyone thinks the US is not heading towards a surveillance State on par with China, then I have a bridge to sell you.
I dont think they are heading towards it. They are already.
Of course they are.
A pertinent point that Solzhenitsyn made in Gulag Archipelago - he said that in all the time he spent in the gulags, he never once met a person who had not been legitimately convicted of a genuine crime.
The way it worked was simply that the USSR had such an extensive and nebulous set of laws that it was effectively impossible for anyone to obey all of them all the time, and so much information on all its citizens that whenever an official wanted someone disappeared, it was just a matter of checking through their records and finding which law(s) they had broken, then arresting them, trying them and convicting them.
The US oligarchy is actively pursuing the same basic strategy, and for the same basic reasons.
The title is lierally how the Soviet Union operated and how the CCP operates today
It’s literally about the United States. Stay focused.
Authoritarian governments the both of them
Yes, but this is specifically about U.S.
Authoritarian governments the both of them
What about whataboutism?
What about authoritarian governments, the both of them?
Jokes on them, I’ll be dead some day soon.
Just China things.
Hold up
The hilarious part (in a bleak fashion), is I can’t find many other articles discussing this.
Then everyone will panic and go crazy when someone like Trump wins and they have access to all this. History repeats.
I can’t find many other articles discussing this.
We’ve known they’ve been doing this since at least Snowden, what’s the story?
Remember that government agency that hoovers up all our data? Yeah, they’re still doing that. Only they don’t have to try as hard because they can just buy our info instead of snooping for it (but they’re also still snooping).
Maybe it’s good to remind people it’s still happening because apparently everyone forgot we were told they’ve been doing this, for a while.
Yes and no - prism and related programs weren’t that big a deal (besides morally and legally) - the NSA was collecting far more data than they could use at scale. It was a problem, but realistically it wouldn’t affect normal people - you’d have to catch a lot of attention first to even be searched in that system. It couldn’t be used for law enforcement or anything wide scale - the collection was there, but the analysis didn’t scale
It was a problem because of where we are now - AI advancement means not only can they now process the insane amount of data they ingest and make terrifying associations, they can use the ridiculous amount of compute they’ve been building out to actually use all this data
We’re most of the way down the slippery slope now, and still accelerating fast. The capability makes 1984 look quaint, and having the ability to flick on systems China drools over is pretty concerning
People don’t even know they’re trying to make us use id to use sites “to protect the children”. Any site that might be inappropriate (of which, social media fits under the current definitions of) would be responsible for children getting access to their services - storing driver’s licenses seems to be the popular idea for compliance. Google’s web DRM might be pushed out so fast to offer this kind of service too
Kosa has bipartisan support, the president has come out strongly supporting it, and it’s insane to me that people still don’t care
Nobody forgot. We all depend on the internet for daily life and livelihoods. We are largely powerless against these faceless institutions
Not that I disagree with you, but I was more responding to the fact that they said they can’t find anybody else reporting about it. I was saying that there’s not much to report because this is kind of old news. I understand why more news agencies aren’t picking up on this, like, government agencies known for sucking up data are still sucking up data. -shrug-
I don’t disagree, and you’re absolutely right, but i’d argue there’s still a difference between a government organization collecting the data themselves, and the same organization buying it from other brokers. It’s semantics sure, but it’s a new dimension of this fucketry.
Fair enough.
they’re going to feed it to their agi
America is the evil empire and must be destroyed
Lol i am.not concerned at all because whoever doesn’t know about “5 eyes” should go and read about it so its just not the US.
You’re not concerned because everyone does it?
That doesn’t seem like sound logic to me.
I understand where you coming from but as a regular doing 9-5 , I can’t change anything until and unless every other regular like you push for a change so I’ve accepted it.
This reply is far more logical than your original comment.
Laughing about oppression is sillier than just accepting it.
