Just in case you thought this was only a Florida problem.
I live in Indiana…I had to sign a form yesterday allowing teachers to call my son Ben instead of Benjamin. Otherwise it would literally be illegal. Fuck these fascists…
Wow government so small it fits in your pocket, so convenient!
Sorry you have to deal with that bs
Barely an inconvenience for me, I’m enraged for the teachers and students who are being placed in a police state by the republicans. I feel it’s very important for kids to be able to confide in trustworthy adults like a teacher or therapist. They are required by law to report threats of violence or suicide…that’s good enough for me. Imagine if it was mandatory to report if a child discusses their gender or sexuality with you. Seems like that’s where we are headed and that is literally what the Taliban does. Johnny things he might be gay…Jane is having sex. Tell the parents so they can beat or kill them.
non-american here. I knew the conservatives in your country were bad but holy shit
I guarantee there are equally bad conservatives in your country. Keep them very far away from the levers of power.
they’ve been in power in one way or another since the 50s. mainstream left-wing politics in this country never really had a chance at any point since we became independent. Going back to the McCarthy days of Magsaysay in the 50s, to Martial Law under Marcos of the 70s, to the Post-Arroyo right-wing dominated politics we have today(23 out of the 24 senate seats are currently held by the conservative government, the House of Representatives isn’t any better). Some families have been in power in their regions for centuries.
arguably the most leftist government we had was the post-EDSA C. Aquino Government, and even that was led by someone who was arguably part of the aristocracy, and even then her government suffered around 9 loyalist coups in 6 years until her government eventually shifted to the right.
I watched ‘Till’ last night (if you don’t know the story, Emmett Till was lynched when he visited his cousins in Mississippi in the '50s. The murderers were identified by multiple witnesses, but the local jury found them not guilty. Till was a 14 year old black kid whose infraction was telling a white lady she looked like a movie star, and then doing a dog-whistle).
A lot of what was happening back then looks like what is happening to LGBT now. It’s wild. They’ll keep ramping it up, they aren’t anywhere near where they want to be and they have the power and support to make it happen.
Have you seen the Top Gear US South special where they drive from Miami to New Orleans? A bit old now, but still relevant.
Sounds like a great way for these kids to learn about civil disobedience. Just file every day for a new name and clog the system to the point of uselessness
My thoughts exactly.
This is what “making america great again” looks like.
Just stupid, idiotic stuff made up by boomers who couldn’t log on to anything without all the help in the world.
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And if the parents are supportive, then the government simply bans gender affirming care and labels it child abuse a far as the law is concerned. This way if parents are supportive of their trans kid, the government can lock the parents up in prison for child abuse and give the child to an appropriately intolerant foster family.
After all, what’s better for a child? To be raised in a loving and accepting environment or to be beaten because they don’t conform to what conservatives declare to be “normal”?
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I’d only add that conservatives have already shown their hand when it comes to trans people. At first, it was “we’re only restricting gender affirming care for kids because they need to become adults before they make such big decisions.” (Although conservatives didn’t seem to think that a raped 10 year old girl wasn’t too immature to carry a pregnancy to term.)
Now, they’ve moved on to banning gender affirming care for adults as well. Their “we’re just protecting kids” talking points obviously don’t apply when the trans person is 30, so they’ve outright shifted to full blown anti-trans rhetoric instead of hiding behind the very thinly veiled “protect the kids.”
Another example of Big government Republicans trying to regulate our lives
As if that description doesn’t apply to democrats…
When did Democrats claim to be anti-regulation and pro-small government? Because that’s what Republicans claim while forever increasing government power.
Like it or not, Republicans push for less business regulations, they’ve neutered the EPA at least some(as a moderate conservative I’m not necessarily in favor of that one but it’s reality) when given the chance,
About the only things that democrats can pin this idea on the Republicans about is abortion and immigration.
The Democrats forced the ACA, which is more regulation and bigger government. Republicans were the ones pushing back on vaccine mandates while Democrats pushed for them.
So ya, I stand by my statement that the op statement is not some unique thing to the Republicans and I think stating that as if it is and then agreeing with it is an example of basing your opinions on feelings and propaganda, not facts and reality.
No, Republicans have the government…
- in my uterus
- in children’s and adult’s bathrooms (trans)
- filling paperwork for nicknames (trans)
- preventing adults from being trans
- preventing children from being trans
- preventing children from learning the truth about their bodies
- deciding any and every parent can demand a school do whatever they want
- trying to make it a criminal offense for a librarian or bookseller to loan/sell a child a book called The Bluest Eyes about 1940’s racism
- yes specifically that book
How is any of that small government?
As for your argument about the ACA, that was created as a bipartisan effort with tons of concessions by Democrats only for Republicans to vote no anyway.
Sure, vaccine mandates. As if we don’t have those already and haven’t for at least a hundred years. That’s new and bigger government.
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Knuckle dragger.
Are you suggesting the Democrats haven’t been about bigger government? Are you suggesting that bigger government means more freedom and less regulations? Like, this isn’t even all that debatable. I truly don’t think you understand the reality of, well, reality if you think this isn’t the case.
Course, the far left is all about whats not reality and I bet that’s exactly the space you think in. Makes it easy to just spout off whatever nonsense sounds like fits your narrative about the other side and call it intelligent.
Ever heard the idea that when you point at someone you’re pointing 3 fingers back at yourself?
For the record, I’d level similar criticisms at the far right and it’s narratives as well.
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I guess the reality of what the Democratic party has been for the last, oh, 70-80 years at least is irrelevant if we’re trying to disparage the Republicans? Way to hive mind yourselves Lemmy…
We get it, in a time no one today was alive to see, a Republican freed the slaves and Democrats hated blacks
And 30 years ago Republicans weren’t big government big spenders but here we are. Let’s focus on today
We hate trans people so much, we’re adding “Brazil” levels of bureaucracy over something so benign as wanting to use your established nickname at school. I’m sure that’s worth everyone’s time.
Sorry, but you must provide a valid copy of your ID and proof of residence before you can complain about bureaucracy
I’d most certainly get a call from the school.
"It says on this form that you want your child to go by Deez at school, can you explain?
"Yeah Deez nuts, stop wasting time with this nonsense "
Sadly, it’s not the schools fault for the waste of time, it’s the fuckle-chucks in the legislature. Every single name change request should be routed to the dumbass that authored the bill, then to every other dumbass that voted in favor of it.
I’m joking of course, but yeah that should be what happens. Worked in the school system and seen that “WTF are you serious?” look in school staff meetings hearing stupid stuff like this get implemented. I actually left because I had enough of dealing with these parents who make this happen and dealing with them was just too much.
Emails, calls, people would come in, they were in the PTA, just always around harassing people over the most petty things. I can’t tell you how many grown adults I’ve seen meltdown in a school front office. The pay sucked, some of the parents were awful , but working with kids was awesome.
Admin: Sir, your child has submitted requests for nicknames for all the names in Mambo #5 and That’s Not My Name. It’s obvious they’re wasting resources.
Me: 😭 So proud.
The party of small government…
This is incredibly dumb. And isnt this part of that bullshit “make america great again”?
An extremely popular group of kids in America were on the silver screen back in the day: Spanky, Sunshine Sammy, Pineapple, Bonedust, Skooter, Wheezer, Farina, Chubby, Breezy, Waldo, Porky, Buckwheat, Alfalfa…
So back when America was “great” kids went by nicknames, alternative names, and everything was fine. But now the government has to be involved?
Oh wait, these laws are made to ostracize and antagonize a marginalized group of people! Thanks big government.
Assholes.
And isnt this part of that bullshit “make america great again”?
Yup
Indiana is a shithole, as someone from the Upper Midwest/Great Lakes Region/Rust Belt, I can confidently say that place is the worst state in the entire section of the country. It makes Ohio look good.
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Well? Are you a rapper now?
My guess is that it didn’t wrap as he expected
Moment of silence for all the weird little fans, nerds, and more who are gonna have their lives made worse by a law targeting trans people. Of course, if this law also ensnares neurodivergent kids, that’s bonus points in their minds.
Ah yes, I can’t wait to be notified of Robert’); DROP TABLE Students;-- nickname.
the republican party platform is basically suicide bombing at this point. it’s a platform of singling out appropriate targets to bully, then hurting everyone but in a way designed to hurt the bullying targets the most. Google “lee atwater speech”, it’s got a lot of n-bombs in it but it basically outlines the way that republicans are proud to be the party of bullies and monsters.
You start out in 2005 by saying “t----- t----- t-----.” By 2023, you can’t say t----. That hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, parents’ rights, bathrooms, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about nicknames, and all these things you’re talking about are totally superficial things and a byproduct of them is, queer folks get hurt more than cishets… “We want to know about kids’ nicknames” is much more abstract than even the parents’ rights thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “t------ t------ t-------.”
OMFG. Seriously that’s all I can think to say Oh My Fucking God. Not just the potential damage it can do to trans kids, but also just the total fucking waste of time and effort for no fucking purpose but performance. It’s like the fucking TSA, not actually doing anything, just making a few idiots feel safer with their little song and dance.
This law confuses me, won’t it protect against bullying? How does it target trans kids
How on earth would such a law protect anyone from bullying?
Some parents beat their children when they find out they’re queer. This forces the school to potentially out kids to their hostile parents.
I have no clue, not an American and neither understand the law, trying to understand the extent of effects & why people are so mad
I just explained why it’s a bad law. It’s that simple. You do know now.
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Is queer considered a nickname? That’s stupid
Let’s say John is in school and wants to come out at trans. “He” would like to go by Jane and use she/her pronouns. The one problem is that John’s parents are very conservative and would beat their child for being LGBTQ instead of “a normal straight kid.”
If John feels comfortable in school, he might transition publicly there - answering to Jane in class and reverting to John at home to avoid beatings.
This law, however, means that the second John asks to be called Jane, John’s parents would be contacted. Even if John/Jane begged for them not to be. School ceases to be a safe space and Jane needs to keep pretending to be John everywhere lest they get beaten.
Thanks for explaining. That sounds awful for the kids, peer pressure is bad enough and now having to deal with conservative parents too!
No, but a lot of queer kids drop their given name for one that fits their identity, one that is obviously queer…
This isn’t that hard to understand
