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    6 months ago

    We all know of his support. What you don’t seem to recognize is that Trump will be worse. Protest Biden’s support of Israel. Just don’t pretend that things will be get better by supporting Trump. We all know that’s a lie.

    Also, the Republicans tried to pass Israel aid independent of Ukraine and Taiwan aid. Don’t pretend for a second that the Democrats in Congress are morally inferior to the Republicans.

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      6 months ago

      The Democrats are arming and funding a genocide. Even George W Bush and Trump never did that.

      Only one president in my lifetime ever armed and funded a genocide. That president is a Democrat and his name is Joe Biden

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          What are the elements of the crime of genocide, and how were they all present in Iraq?

          Gaza is worse than that abomination because of Israels clear intent to exterminate a people. Which is what makes it genocide. This isn’t a war with an unacceptably large amount of deaths - its a targeted extermination campaign that is also engaging in ethnic cleansing and collective punishment

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            6 months ago

            If you can’t see the vilification and indiscriminate killing of Arabs as genocidal, and you’d rather argue semantics, then technically speaking Netanyahu’s horrific actions in Gaza are not genocide until determined by the ICC. Saying “Bush wouldn’t even do this” is absurd.

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              Genocide is a crime. Crimes have elements. Tell me how Iraq meets all of those elements

              Its why Maos great leap forward isn’t genocide. Did millions of people die? Yes. Did the CCP intend for those people to die? No. As opposed to the holocaust wherein the deaths of 9 million people were the clear intent.

              Here, Netanyahu wants to exterminate the gazans and is doing so. Which makes it genocide

              Mens rea/mental intent is a necessary and critical element of all criminal law. It’s the distinguishing factor between murder and manslaughter. Or between genocide and neoconservative “nation building”. It isn’t semantics

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                It’s determined by the ICC and International law. If you’re being technical of the designation, that’s how it’s defined.

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                  6 months ago

                  It is determined when the elements of a crime are satisfied.

                  A murderer has committed murder even if they are never arrested by law enforcement. Shoplifting has still occurred even if the thief is never prosecuted. Israel is committing genocide even if the ICC and ICJ (which are overwhelmingly funded by the United States and the West) never obtain a conviction.

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                    6 months ago

                    Great, so we can either call killing 35,000 Palestinians and 900,000+ Arabs genocide, or agree it’s not by law. Semantics doesn’t change what happened in 2002, just like it doesn’t change what’s happening in Gaza now. Wrong is wrong, and saying Bush wouldn’t do this is wildly ignorant.