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    6 months ago

    Cuz that’s how it’s always worked. The center’s never saved anyone in their lives from anything. That’s why they’re in the center. They don’t take a stand. They don’t fight for justice or equality or plurality. They’re in the center. They’re complacent. They’re easily steered. You can’t lead by never taking a stance in the first place. You can’t want to be led by somebody who’s never first.

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      That’s why they’re in the center. They don’t take a stand.

      The center is taking a stand right now. In favor of genocide. I didn’t know they could, either. Guess they were just looking for a cause that they firmly believe in that excites them.

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        No they’re not. They’re not taking a stand at all. They’re just standing back and watching impassively like they always do.

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          Circumventing congress to sell Netanyahu weapons is not standing back and watching impassively.

          Running interference for Netanyahu at the UN isn’t standing back and watching impassively.

          Voting overwhelmingly to not condition aid is not standing back and watching impassively.

          Voting overwhelmingly to fund Israel while they are committing genocide is not standing back and watching impassively.

          Claiming that those who oppose Netanyahu’s genocide have ties to Russia isn’t standing back and watching impassively.

          Centrists have finally found an issue that they won’t immediately abandon at the very first sign of opposition.

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            That whistling sound you are hearing is the sound of the point you miss completely.

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              Sorry, I’m not going to pretend that centrist Democrats are benignly bungling into this. They’re enthusiastically supporting genocide because it’s all they’ve ever wanted.

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      But why can’t I impose my own beliefs on people who have no beliefs!? It’s not fair!

      Yeah of course it’s not fair, but refusing to vote for the least bad available option is insanity when the stakes are this high. These people are beyond children and will lead our entire species to its end.

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        of course it’s not fair, but refusing to vote for the least bad available option is insanity when the stakes are this high

        That is literally the only way to get politicians to support the policies and issues that you want them to. The only thing you have that they want is your vote, they only way you will move them on an issue is if you convince them they won’t get it otherwise.

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          If you think the pro-genocide orange man is going to care more about your desires than Biden, I have bad news for you…

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            If you think the pro-genocide orange man is going to care more about your desires than Biden, I have bad news for you…

            Nobody thinks that, but he is not going to make it worse. Israel is running their pogrom at the exact speed they want, Biden, and therefore the US, are not doing anything to slow them down. He gives some minor admonishment and his staff leaks to the press the he is “frustrated with Netenyahu” as if that matters. They say they will sanction some of the illegal colonizers in the West Bank, but then a couple weeks later decide not to. We continue to give Israel bombs and missiles and any other help they need in their mass murder. We are building a pier in Gaza so we can get aid past the Israeli blockade but then Biden says it will be under the control of Israel, so it will not be any more effective than any other crossing. Netenyahu wants the war to continue as it is preventing his corruption charges and the longer he can continue the better chance he has of getting his judicial and government reform in place to further consolidate his power and eventually quash any chance he will be held to account. Forcing the Democrats to actually make policy and take action to resolve the apartheid in Palestine is the only potential path in our broken political system. If you are so concerned this is going to hand Trump victory then start pressuring the centrist Dems to enforce a ceasefire now. Gain the youth vote, gain the anti genocide vote.