• qantravon@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    The rationale for this actually makes some sense. You wouldn’t want an incumbent to be able to remove an opponent by railroading them into a minor felony conviction. With the way Trump ran things, if all it took was a minor felony to make sure Biden was ineligible, he absolutely would have pressured the DOJ to find something.

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      6 months ago

      How does that make sense if you’re not allowed to participate in the voting process as a felon? Or do you also think that felons should be eligible to vote?

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        I can’t think of any good reason anyone’s right to vote should be revoked. In fact, it’s probably very important that those that have been targeted by the system are able to have their voice.

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        felons should be elligible to vote. For one, there are statistically a number of people in jail who are fully innocent but convicted anyway. Second it means that politicians would have incentives not to ignore conditions of inmates. If you look at groups unable to vote: noncitizen legal residents, kids, and prisoners then you see people with fewer rightds.

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        If you have served your time, then all rights should be restored to you. So many people are stuck in a system of poverty because of how our system works.

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          That’s primarily due to application disclosure law not having an expiration or qualification for forgiveness. Make one bad choice at 18 and you’ll be working entry-level or manual labor for the rest of your life. Not to mention the difficulty in finding a landlord that’ll rent to you. It’s so close-minded that we don’t believe in rehabilitation or change as a nation.

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            It really shouldn’t be legal to ask if someone was a non-violent felon (violent felons would need a different classification).

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              There are some things it’s relevant for, in terms of financial crimes or pharmaceuticals.

              Or a rape charges for working in a SA survivor clinic.

              Elder abuse in nursing homes…

              Etc.

              And all of a sudden when see why we just need to stop categorizing things into felony/misdemeanor and take cases individually

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                  It is in fact a problem when you can prescribe drugs and are expected to be impeccably honest.

                  Is it a bit of a Catch-22? Sure. Should a doctor be able to do heroin? Sure. Should a doctor caught selling heroin to junkies without even checking their health history be able to keep his license or practice medicine?

                  Or how about an accountant that embezzled from his clients?

                  I don’t know about that one.

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                I know it is, I just don’t think it should be. Way to many non-violent drug users have their lives ruined over an addiction.

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                  Agreed. Our one-chance system is designed to kill addicts. Prison is not rehabilitation, and often leads to the homeless/prison cycle for those who struggle with addiction.

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      Yeah, however in this case Trump did all the felonies is on his own. Your argument is for a very specific set of circumstances, in which one party nominates a candidate for the primaries, who, then commits felony crimes before the general election.