• not_that_guy05@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I think France is correct and the EU should start investing in their defense. The United States cannot be looked as dependable anymore and should stop being seen as the world police. I mean FFS look at our police and ask yourself do you really want them as your protectors?

  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    Europeans realizing that US is going to throw them under the bus now that the proxy war with Russia turned sour is absolutely hilarious.

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      6 months ago

      French President Emmanuel Macron said Europe can no longer rely on the US for its security needs and must build its own credible defense.

      In a speech setting out his vision for Europe, six weeks ahead of European Parliament elections, Macron said the continent may need to produce its own anti-missile shield, long-range surface missiles and other items to build a sufficiently robust defense.

      “We need to build a strategic defense for Europe ourselves,” the French president said at Paris’s Sorbonne University on Thursday. “Europe must defend what’s important for her, with allies or alone.”

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    6 months ago

    Shitty paywall. Even through 12ft.io

    But about the content- he isn’t wrong, but people also need to know there is a bit of self interest in there too. France has a huge military industrial complex (outside of the massive one the US has) and is one of Europe’s biggest domestic military suppliers.

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    6 months ago

    I’m not a fan of American foreign policy at all, but following the European news lately I don’t know if our governments can be trusted without the US providing security.

    I fear that the moment European nations need to be serious about their own defense they become way less trustful of their neighbors, creating all the incentives for an arms race. Especially with the current crop of nationalist politicians it’s not hard to imagine a serious cool down in the relationship between a France and a Germany lead by Le Pen and the AFD (in a coalition government or not). In such a world it’s suddenly way less pleasant to be a smaller nation that can not seriously compete with Germany or France.

    I really hope I’m wrong and that we truly learned the lesson from the second word war, but I think not needing to provide our own security plays at least a role in the relative peace within the EU member states.

    • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.club
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      6 months ago

      The problem is that Europe doesn’t really have an idea of what a European defense organization would look like. The national model isn’t going to work as most nations are too small to provide meaningful contributions. However, it feels like most countries aren’t ready to hand over more foreign policy competencies to the EU.