Wow, someone actually finally managed to force Trump to pay a bill.

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    Right, not disputing that at all. I’m just saying he’s (or whoever is footing the bill) a long way from actually paying anyone their due.

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      The point of the bond is that if the appeal fails, the court just hands the money over - shes probably more likely to see the cash this way than if he didn’t appeal.

      Appeals court doesn’t give you a “do over” - they don’t try the case again, they don’t re-decide facts. Appeals court lets you argue that the previous court made an error in procedure. Given how competent Carrols’ lawyers were and how totally incompetent Trump’s were, I doubt they will be able to find anything.

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        So whats the end game? Like ofc delay, but I don’t get it unless this is like the Saudis taking a multi-billion loss on helping Muskovitch aquire Twitter cuz there’s no limit to the upside of them dismantling an ongoing threat to them.

        Like his debt and legal problems are nothing on the nation-state actor level, this is all horrifying in that light. Lots of dirty, dumb shit happening. His appeals are hopeless, he must be planning on violently dismantling their abillity to enforce it

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          So whats the end game?

          Win or steal the presidency, and convert the position to king, probably.

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            Basically this. His endgame plan is “become president, get the DOJ or Congress or the SC to rule he can’t be made to pay for anything”.

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          He’s not playing 4D chess. This isn’t some master plan. He is appealing because his choices are:

          • Appeal, put the bond up, hope he can stall for a while and maybe something comes up, probably loose later
          • Accept the verdict, loose now and either;
            • Pay the judgement
            • Refuse to pay the judgement and have people who cannot be threatened, bullied or argued with come seize assets
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            I’m more referring to whoever’s enabling this by doing his bond for him, how do they expect to be paid back? He’s lost the 2 (maybe 3) battles of this “war” already

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              • $90 million isn’t that much money if you are a large company and want the president of the US to owe you a favour.
              • The CEO of Chubb had a pretty cushy white house role under trump, maybe this is a favour being repaid at the expense of Chubbs shareholders

              Either way, most other countries call this corruption

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          At this point Trump is trying to delay everything he can until the presidential election, because he’s hoping that he’ll win again which will give him some kind of immunity against civil and criminal prosecution for another four years. I assume he thinks he’ll get into power and arbitrarily change laws to try to exonerate himself, despite the fact that that won’t really work because he’s being sued/tried under state laws, but I don’t think he’s smart enough to figure that out.

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            Also he will sell himself and the country to whoever will pay in a way that he can get it. Then use that to pay off his bills. Plus, I don’t think he plans on ever leaving the white house if he gets in this time. And at his age, he might be right, just in a different way than he imagines.