• HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Not quite - you are also confusing what one side said the other was.

    The very early days, brief timeline

    • aid trucks went in. Israel says drivers were Hamas.

    • aid trucks were swarmed, people killed in the crush.

    • Israel opened fire to protect trucks, Hamas claimed shots fired deliberately at chest level.

    • people killed in panic stampede, people run over by panicked truck drivers, I haven’t seen any comments that people were killed by gunfire (haven’t seen, not saying it didn’t happen.

    • i will also ignore any references from MEE or Democracynow, along with any blatantly supporting Israel or Gaza without balance.

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      8 months ago

      Can you point us to a source for “Israel says drivers were Hamas”?

      (As they were escorting the convoy, it seems unlikely to me that they were allowing the trucks to be driven by the armed wing of Hamas. Perhaps the unarmed administrative part or Egyptians sounds much more realistic)

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        8 months ago

        I cant find the direct link - it was the breaking news link in Al Jazeera around 6 hours ago that has now been changed as news develops. I also suspect that statement has since been recanted as none of their new stories mention it, nor does the improvethenews.org story.

        I doubt Israel was escorting it, but with Hamas stealing aid supplies for the war effort I also wouldn’t be surprised (opinion only, don’t take that as fact). I also doubt that Hamas armed forces were driving, but Hamas is also the Palestine government so could be technically correct if they were government workers???

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          8 months ago

          Times of Israel article has them as ‘private contractors’, Egyptian drivers seem the most logical

          I can’t see where Al Jazeera came up with that claim then

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            8 months ago

            It may sound like I’m supporting Israel in this thread, but I’m supporting balanced arguements and anti propaganda. I would trust Times of Israel to be as biased as MEE or Democracynow (that is incredibly biased and half the story).

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              8 months ago

              Sure, they’re a sockpuppet for Israel. But still, their claim sounds a lot more plausible than AJ suggesting ‘Hamas’ was driving

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              8 months ago

              If you say anything other than what the hivemind is saying- you’re always going to be accused of being “anti-something.”

              I once tried telling people that Biden is not physically committing genocide anywhere and that Israel isn’t enabled entirely as a result of Biden and would be doing it with or without his involvement- and was harassed for hours over it.

              They seriously think that Biden is the mastermind of the whole operation.

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      8 months ago

      You’re a rare breed man. Thanks for staying true to the facts, regardless of the results of them. Non-bias is impossible to find nowadays.