Fox News reported on some new presidential rankings, which purportedly show Barack Obama as the #6 president in U.S. history and Donald Trump dead last, and MAGA was not happy.Fox News on Sunday posted an article about the new rankings by the Presidential Greatness Project, which Fox describes as "a...

Fox News reported on some new presidential rankings, which purportedly show Barack Obama as the #6 president in U.S. history and Donald Trump dead last, and MAGA was not happy.

Fox News on Sunday posted an article about the new rankings by the Presidential Greatness Project, which Fox describes as “a group of self-styled experts.” It states that Abraham “Lincoln topped the list of presidents in the 2024 Presidential Greatness Project expert survey for the third time, following his top spot in the rankings in the 2015 and 2018 versions of the survey.”

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“Rounding out the top five in the rankings were Franklin Delano Roosevelt at number two, George Washington at three, Theodore Roosevelt at four, and Thomas Jefferson at five,” according to the report. “Trump was ranked in last place in the survey, being ranked worse than James Buchanan at 44, Andrew Johnson at 43, Franklin Pierce at 42, and William Henry Harrison at 41.”

The report states that Obama and Joe Biden “ranked an average of 6th and 13th, respectively, among Democrat respondents, and 15th and 30th by Republicans.”

  • Diotima@kbin.social
    82·
    9 months ago

    These results are interesting, though the article does note that the overall results seem to map along party lines for mote contemporary presdients (with notable exceptions, like Clinton.) In case anyone wonders, the polling pool was:

    “…current and recent members of the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association … as well as scholars who had recently published peer-reviewed academic research in key related scholarly journals or academic presses.”

    So, not a general survey in case anyone wonders.

    Edit: I do wonder how balanced this survey was, though… if Obama was 6th and 15h and Biden was 13th among Democrats and 30th among Republicans, and nonetheless 14th overall, it does suggest that the poll was heavily skewed toward Democratic respondents. Nothing wrong with that, just food for thought.

    • mipadaitu@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      9 months ago

      Wait, so you’re saying the scholars… the people who actually study things and know what they are talking about… skew towards a favorable view of democratic policies??? That’s weird, must be a conspiracy.

      • Diotima@kbin.social
        1·
        9 months ago

        Not as such. I’m saying exactly what I said… that there’s a strong democratic skew in this survey, which is not immediately apparent in the story. That is valuable information for anyone wanting to understand the results… not so much for someone looking to “hur hur” over the performance of the other.

    • ryathal@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      9 months ago

      There’s a lot that don’t really make sense other than a heavier democrat bias. Bush Sr being well above Jr also doesn’t really make sense. There also seems to be a very heavy recency bias, Clinton should probably be the highest rated president from the last 30 years and likely not in the top 10.