Edited footage of protesters chanting “gas the Jews” at a rally outside the Sydney Opera House in October was shared on social media, but NSW Police said an extensive investigation found no evidence of it happening.

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    9 months ago

    How dare they ask why Jewish voices aren’t also against Israel’s horrific response at a rally aimed at our governments blind support for Israel and the now obvious to everyone genocide of Palestinians.

    Instead there was only lies spread to say they were calling for genocide of Jewish people.

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      9 months ago

      I’d feel weird for going into the streets to protest against Israel for killing terrorists who murdered other jews. A jewish person showing up at a pro Palestinian rally is like asking to be hatecrimed.

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        9 months ago

        The pro-palestine protests near me are often organized by jewish orgs, palestinian orgs, muslim orgs, and socialists. I have not seen a hate crime take place at any protest, even though there are people with jewish voice for peace there, or jewish people in the other orgs.

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      If that’s the reason why they were yelling that, it’s racist even if it’s not genocidal. Substitute any other ethnicity or race into that sentence. Demanding that Jews attend a protest or swear a loyalty oath is racist – the same way it would be if a bunch of people were yelling “where’s the Blacks?” or “where’s the Muslims?”

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        For those coming to this late, know this: there’s a little army of racist ghouls patrolling these threads to promote their agenda - in this case arguing that it’s somehow legit and anti-racist to get the gang together to call out ‘the Jews’. Yet not one of these pathetic cowards are brave enough to step into the light to defend it.

        Here’s why: it’s indefensibly racist. They’re painted into a corner and can’t defend it without removing the mask.

        When people demand that Muslims declare a loyalty oath against Hamas or Hezbollah or ISIS, or when they hold Muslims (or Palestinians) collectively responsible for their actions, it’s inarguably racist. This isn’t different.

        Today they’re encouraging you to target Jews; tomorrow it’ll be BIPOC or Muslims. We should resist racist bullshit as ever. It’s cancer to a liberation movement. These people are tumors to be excised from the movement, not people to be followed or promoted in it. And I say that as someone who’s fought for a Palestinian state since the second intifada.

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      You’re grasping at straws, you clearly didn’t read the article (and don’t want to), so I quote the relevant passage for you as you seem to only have read the headline:

      When asked whether there was evidence of other antisemitic phrases being used at the rally, Lanyon said “certainly”.

      That + repeating “where’s the Jews” during a rally immediately 2 days after Hamas’ killings and mass rapes on October 7th is definitely indefensible and certainly is incompatible with how you want it to be interpreted.

      You hoped that this article would be a gotcha moment but you seem to not have read anything beyond the headline, because the article is actually still pretty damning.

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        Mate, I know what happens in my country.

        Hundreds of Australians have marched in solidarity with Palestinians after the Israeli government formally declared war against Hamas in response to its surprise attack.

        https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/oct/09/pro-palestinian-rally-in-sydney-calls-for-australia-to-drop-support-for-israel

        These were nationwide protests against Israel’s oppression. And they were justified, everything everyone said would happen has happened.

        The reason “Gas the Jews” was lied about was because it would provide legal recourse to arrest those protesting. It was a deliberate attempt to abuse the justice system to silence victims. This lie led to further protests being cancelled and was spread worldwide to create a narrative that Palestians wanted all Jewish people dead.

        https://www.crikey.com.au/2023/12/13/viral-footage-gas-the-jews-police-factcheckers-unverified/

        Soon after the protest, organiser Fahad Ali posted on X that he had heard “anti-Semitic chants from a group of idiots who were in a minority”, and who he asked to leave. A further post from the organiser Palestine Action Group’s Facebook page also acknowledged that a “group of young boys, mostly in their teens chant[ed] ‘fuck the Jews’ “.

        Ali confirmed to Crikey this week that he heard the other chant but did not hear “gas the Jews”, nor had he seen any evidence it was chanted.

        As for your “well there was other antisemitic remarks made” argument.


        There is no defence for editing video footage with faked audio and using that to influence political decisions to further oppress an oppressed people.

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          The reason “Gas the Jews” was lied about was because it would provide legal recourse to arrest those protesting. It was a deliberate attempt to abuse the justice system to silence victims.

          But the article says it was used to change the hate crime laws. That makes it sound like it wasn’t covered by laws at the time this allegedly happened.