• rifugee@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    You know your country is fucked when your first thought is, “if someone dies when the cops show up at the home of someone completely innocent, then whomever called them should be charged with murder.”

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        9 months ago

        I expect any country’s SWAT team to be able to show up at an innocent person’s house and NOT kill anyone. I guess I have high standards.

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          9 months ago

          Yeah they should. But if while committing a crime you cause the death of someone, then that’s murder.

          Like if I’m robbing you and you get so scared you have a heart attack and die, I can say, “well I expect people to exercise more and keep in better shape so they don’t have heart attacks. I guess I have high standards.” I can say that, but I’m still getting charged with murder in most places, because if I didn’t commit that crime you’d still be alive.

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            9 months ago

            No, I understand the legal concept. My point is that police, and especially SWAT, should be trained well enough that the idea that anyone would be in danger if they were to show up at an innocent person’s house would be so ridiculous that we wouldn’t even be having this discussion. In the US, it takes about 650 hours of training to become a police officer on average, and 3000 to become a cosmetologist. That’s fucked up.

            https://www.trainingreform.org/not-enough-training

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                9 months ago

                I guess I don’t understand what we are talking about, sorry. This thread is in reply to:

                I mean, it should be true for any country. SWATting isn’t a US only phenomenon.

                Which I know wasn’t your comment, but I took that to mean that because it happens in other countries then the US isn’t that fucked. My original comment didn’t specify the US and was a benchmark that could be applied to all countries, so the reply sounded argumentative to me.

                Maybe I was reading something into it that wasn’t there? Sorry for being a dumbass!