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    There’s no one standalone reason why I think macOS is better than Windows for productivity. Instead of a single killer blow, it’s death by a series of smaller wounds.

    The only real way of describing it. So many little niceties from decades of attentiveness, even if things have been backsliding in recent years.

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      Fantastic description! This is an issue that made it difficult to justify to my management to allow them to allow Macs, but thankfully Apple Silicon was big enough of a game changer to sway the decision

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        Exactly my case. Apple Silicon was a game changer in relation to performance against cost. Was able to replace my old top PC with a mac mini and improve my work on Adobe suite. Impressive. The ecosystem with my iPhone was also an amazing improvement. Airdrop is fantastic.

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          I haven’t used an apple silicon device yet but I understand they’re insane on battery and performance.

          And airdrop is stupid useful in so many scenarios.

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            There’s a nice browser run and open source alternative to airdrop called Snapdrop. It uses web rtc to transmit data from device to device directly and can be self-hosted. I use it to transfer data between my Mac and my windows pc as well as my steam deck.

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    this is one of those subjective things that highly depend on what your job actually entails

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          I’m a SysAdmin for a large university and work with our loan services team quite often to get faculty and staff loaner machines for various reasons. They typically stock Win, Mac, and Linux laptops for users. The number of Windows and Mac users that complain about the Linux experience in our surveys is off the charts. The Macs get the highest praise, with Windows right behind it and Linux systems are typically trashed in the surveys. It’s reached a point that team plans to reimagine the Linux to systems Windows and investing in more Macs.

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      I ran arch (btw) for years on my XPS. Just grabbed the new Air 15 and I don’t think I could go back. Considered trying Asahi, but I just don’t see a reason to.

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    I moved from a desktop PC to a 2015 MBP and I’ve been extremely satisfied with it. It’s nothing short of a miracle how little issues I’ve had with it. It’s fast and everything just work. Was expensive as hell but worth every penny.

    That being said my next laptop is probably not going to me a MacBook but the Framework laptop. Not only do I not like Apple as a company but I also want to support what Framework is doing and the only way to do that is by putting money where my mouth is.

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    macOS is a great OS, and I’ve used it pretty extensively now. Every time I try to make it my primary OS I end up wanting to go back to Windows soon after. And this is from a die hard Linux advocate. Part of the issue is the cost and lack of easy upgrades for the hardware, the other is I just find macOS to be frustrating for anything but normal “user” stuff. So for me: Linux for servers and hobbyist stuff, macOS if no other option, Windows for just about everything else.

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      It’s basically good there’s choice. I run Linux exclusively on my gaming laptop, with the improvements in Proton I can now game on it as well as everything else such as desktop productivity/photo editing/Rust programming. I also enjoy MacOS (and love what they have done with the Mx series) but can’t afford a Mac and well, I game a lot.

      I can use Windows (My career started with TWM, so I can use anything) but it annoys me so I tend to avoid it.

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    The last version of Windows I used on a computer I owned is 3.1

    Every time I need to use Windows I’m so insanely lost and have next to no idea what I’m doing, like it’s seriously like I’m 80 yrs old and using a computer for the first time lol.

    It doesn’t help that it feels like it’s vastly different in how the start menu works depending on which version I’m using.

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    Anyone trying to batch rename files on Windows should check out PowerToys. It’s a first-party app that adds a lot of useful utilities. One of them is PowerRename, which lets you batch rename files using regex for precise search and replace. It also has the option to preview changes before applying them.

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    I much prefer MacOS over windows due to the spotlight search. The only thing I wish was added is a detailed audio interface. It’s frustrating having to go to a app to turn it up or down.

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      Yeah a volume mixer that isn’t natively built in is a very missed opportunity. I don’t want to have to pay extra money for software that most other OSes ship with lol

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      There are power toys for windows which add the spotlight search functionality as well as ear trumpet which is amazing for turning specific apps up and down by themselves just from a single menu

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          Yeah ear trumpet I’ve been using for years but somehow never see anyone mention it. Maybe there’s a better tool that I don’t know about. But the spotlight function in power toys is amazing since when I switched to Windows from Mac I missed that a lot.

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      I use Mac for productivity but windows for gaming. I love spotlight on macOS. I recently discovered PowerToys for Windows (made by Microsoft), which includes a little add on that provides spotlight-like function on windows. You can even assign your own keyboard command to it, so I have main assigned to WIN+Space, just like Mac.

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    Even before reading the article, I can already guessed that the author uses only the laptop’s screen for work. I tried MacOS for 6 months, really liked that I can ultilize many of Linux commands that I only used to manage servers. But using multiple monitors is such a pain with MacOS that I can never understand how people put up with it. I then slowly understand why people keep saying “I can’t see you or if you raised your hand” during meetings, it’s because they use only one single screen.

    I do think MacOS will have a huge advantage over Windows and Linux if they overhaul the window system. However, seeing how “holding it wrong” consistently coming up in discussion, I don’t see any chance soon, if ever.

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      Lol, is that a joke ???

      I use Linux and MacOS. The scaling tools on Linux are the absolute worst. I have a 15 inch 1080p laptop plugged to a 24 inch display and this is a fucking nightmare to make the two working correctly. Whatever the distribution or the GNU, being Gnome, XFCE, Wayland, Sway. Arch or Debian based…

      On the other hand I got a 14 inch MBP connected to 2 UltraFine 24 and an 2560x1080 monitor with absolutely zero issue.

      I can adapt every single definition on every single screen, and the system remembers the def I set when plugging/unplugging.

      MacOS external screen management tools is the best I’ve ever seen.

      Your comment shows that you know absolutely nothing about macOS

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        My main PC is a 4k and 1080p monitor, running Plasma Wayland. Using 150% scaling and 100% on the other so pretty much the worst combination you can have in terms of monitor jank (mixed scaling together with fractional scaling). Functionality wise it’s completely fine, there are some graphical bugs though. Mixed-DPI scaling used to be impossible on X11 but that’s because it’s old and not designed with that in mind at all. IIRC sway also worked well for me with that setup. What problems did you have?

        Multi-monitor on macOS is fine for my purposes too though. I was actually blown away by how well Continuity display works with my iPad.

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        Your comment shows that you know absolutely nothing about macOS

        I think this is the biggest problem with Apple: you’re holding it wrong. Apple cannot be wrong and there can never be any discussion about how to approach a problem, let alone address it. There can’t never be a problem, and that’s what’s wrong with MacOS.

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          Oh there are some issues with macOS, especially for a long time user like me who’ve witnessed the disappearance of some features for the sake of user friendliness. But the one suggested in that comment? Just plain ignorance.

          And to be fair, that’s exactly the problem with the vast majority of Apple haters who just don’t know shit about the subject.

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            Thank you being an example of the problem I was referring to. Appreciate your help complimenting my point.

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        1. M1 only supports 1 extra monitor. (M1 pro does support two, but only through an expensive thunderbolt dock or through two cables from different USB/TB ports.
        2. No volume adjustment of external monitors if they are not from Apple.

        There are maybe many more (maybe no window snapping like windows if you count that), but those are the issues that I noticed.

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          I am a diehard Apple fanboy and don’t see any viable alternative for any of their main product lines. But their multi monitor performance is comically bad: I have Thunderbolt docks and two monitors work fine through that from a technical perspective. Though dragging windows between monitors is not seamless and macOS even rubs it in your face with some quirky UI hints when you are “leaving” one monitor and enter another like it’s the 90s. Icons and real life data in the menu bar have had scaling issues for a decade now on the screen you are not currently active on with a window (but can still see in real life, because eyes). There is an old desktop wallpaper saved somewhere from when I first connected the monitors that stays on the second one (the first monitor has my normal wallpaper). I know I can change this independently, but why?! When opening monitor settings you can adjust things like refresh rate or color profile independently, which is nice, but each window for adjustments opens on the screen it is adjusting. Apple’s whole multi monitor experience feels clunky and dated and hasn’t been getting any improvements for years, which tells me, nobody at Apple uses multiple screens.

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          You are saying absolute shit

          M1 supports one external 4K display on laptop, two on the mini

          M1 Pro supports 2 external 6K displays on laptop, 3 on the mini

          You can extend any M1 Capability with an external hub.

          Furthermore, you are comparing Linux (an Operating System) to the M1 (hardware). That’s stupid.

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            M1 supports one external 4K display on laptop, two on the mini

            Yea, they key here being 4K. Try connecting 1080p or 1440p which normal people tend to have around and you get terrible scaling.

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        I was referring to behavior of desktop environment behavior and not MacOS support for external monitor. In fact, I remember that MacOS was way ahead of Windows in supporting screens with different pixel density. And text rendering, especially text rendering.

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      What’s an example of something that works better with Windows multiple monitor support over macOS?

      Linux I totally get. I love how Linux window managers make it easy to give each monitor its own separate virtual desktops. I tend to have one monitor that’s fixed and another that I change between tasks.

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        Taskbar that I can configure to either displayed on the monitor that the window is displayed, only in the main desktop or both.

        Hover over taskbar icon with multiple windows to see thumbnails.

        Predictable minimize/maximize behavior. I don’t quite like the idea of window fitting the content but to each’s own taste but I can’t stand the random fullscreen that some app do on MacOS.

        Making use of maximize button to display snapping options on Windows 11 is also very convenient.

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    This article is ridiculous because it doesn’t mention why these differences exist at all. Like for example Macs don’t have window snapping because Microsoft patented that feature back in the Windows Vista days. & Batch file renaming is a Unix thing. I have always liked Exposé and hot corners and also mission control, but many windows users hate it. It’s entirely subjective and not at all rational. I guess that’s the point of an opinion piece but it really lacks the context that would have made this article informative, just a little research would have been cool.

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    I use both MacOS and Windows.

    I think both have their uses and strengths. I don’t really like putting one down over the other.

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      Same. I usually say “they both suck.” Neither one really meets my expectations for what a desktop operating system should be able to do these days. Every now and then I find myself wishing for some little feature enhancement in Finder and shucks… that’s just never going to happen, is it?

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    And not to forget the little Finder function that allows you to create a new folder with all of the items you’ve selected, which are automatically moved into it.

    Oh how I wish windows could or would add this. And hitting the space bar in the Finder to look at a file without opening the requisite app. And just Preview. He’s right, there are tons of little QoL improvements that make macOS feel so superior.

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    One of the things I still love about my 11" MacBook Air is the ease of using multiple desktops (spaces). Even with the tiny screen, I can quickly switch between apps and keep things organised with the trackpad gestures. Drag and drop is also more seamless in macOS compared to Windows.

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      Windows also has multiple desktop “spaces”, but the touch side is way smoother on the mac.

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      I really want a modern 11" (small bezel) MacBook.

      Of course I also want the 15" air so maybe I just like cool stuff. But I think there’s a place for a real ultraportable that’s not trying to kludge any of the awful keyboard cases on an iPad.

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    MacOS window management is unfortunately a total mess. To the point that I still feel more productive on a dirt-cheap linux laptop, vs. my expensive work-isssued M1 machine with great hardware

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      Rectangle is the only way I find MacOS to be useful when it comes to window management.

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      undefined> If you’re trying to get it to act like Windows or your favorite Linux window manager, you’ll find it frustrating. However, if you absolutely insist then you should just install a third-party window snapping tool.

      I mean there are things in Gnome that I prefer but what I found useful was to start using the workspaces / virtual desktops more and using the three finger swipe up a lot on my Air. That helped when using multiple profiles on chrome a lot because using cmd + ` was just not it for me.

      Auto snapping would be great but at least you can tile windows to left / right so that’s something and you can add keybinds for it

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      It’s not better or worse, it’s just…different.

      If you’ve been using Macs for years and you learn all of the Mac-specific shortcuts and window management tools, it’s fantastic.

      If you’re trying to get it to act like Windows or your favorite Linux window manager, you’ll find it frustrating. However, if you absolutely insist then you should just install a third-party window snapping tool.

      I feel the same about Windows not having virtual desktops for years. Windows users had other solutions, but coming from both macOS and Linux window managers, I thought it was ridiculous they had nothing built-in, so I always installed a third-party virtual desktop tool for Windows.

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        Yeah that’s a good way to put it, when I picked up my Air recently I was extremely frustrated by how it didn’t quite do things quite like Gnome 40x and how it missed some of the Windows things like Window Snapping but once you get used to the gestures it’s not so bad.

        Also yeah virtual desktops are a god send on Gnome/MacOS it’s frustrating to not have them on Windows.

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      Rectangle is the only way I find MacOS to be useful when it comes to window management.