• HACKthePRISONS@kolektiva.social
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    10 months ago

    >I’m not convinced you understand what fascism truly is and why it’s so dangerous. It’s not just things we don’t like politically – it’s a specific far right ideology that always leads to genocide.

    the absolute irony

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      10 months ago

      You just keep giving me examples of how you don’t actually understand what fascism means.

      I don’t agree with Biden either. I’m farther left than most democrats. But there’s a vast difference here, and you’re either being wilfully ignorant or divisive on purpose. I’m not able to take you seriously until you address the points in my other comment.

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        10 months ago

        >You just keep giving me examples of how you don’t actually understand what fascism means.

        someone should take your keyboard and replace it with a mirror

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          10 months ago

          So you don’t have a reasonable argument, then. Ad hominem is a weak escape hatch.

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                10 months ago

                i’m saying that you don’t understand the topic, and you’re telling me the same thing. that’s hardly attacking the person.

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                  10 months ago

                  I linked the actual definition and asked you for evidence to support your point, which you haven’t provided.

                  If you know so much more than me, please prove me wrong. Personal attacks don’t make you seem like you know what you’re talking about.

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                    10 months ago

                    >>I linked the actual definition and asked you for evidence to support your point, which you haven’t provided.

                    yes, i did. you just don’t like it.

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          10 months ago

          No you didn’t. Go back through that list and actually address each point, rather than throwing out a few examples that have little to do with anything I said.

          Again, I agree that stuff is bad, but it’s not fascism. Fascism is a specific far-right ideology with specific hallmarks, it’s not just ‘shitty policy I don’t agree with’.

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              10 months ago

              It wasn’t a Gish gallop. It was a simple list of the hallmarks of fascism, with examples for each. It was stupidly easy to do, and it should be just as easy for you to rebut if your point has merit.

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                10 months ago

                > it should be just as easy for you to rebut if your point has merit.

                your framing is fallacious. of course there are differences between the republicans and democrats in rhetoric and policy, but both of them are fascist.

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                  10 months ago

                  your framing is fallacious.

                  How, exactly? Your point was both sides are fascist. I disagreed, with the counterpoint that fascism means x, providing examples of republican fascism, and asking for examples of democrat fascism.

                  I’m challenging you to back up your original thesis. That’s literally how debate works.