He is a far leftist person who wishes to stamp out conservative content and edgy humor on lemmy, after blocking him on my instance cz he forced me (which is very hard on EH) too he keeps coming back to harass the instance, this will be my only post here on this subject and sorry for intruding

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    You don’t have to be far left to not want to make a space for bigotry. People are deciding for themselves that they want nothing to do with right wing instances - nothing you can do about it.

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      Agree, and most instances that have defederated have done so with the majority support of the whole user base (as much as that can be accomplished.) This is not the issue with defederation, the issue is creating “islands” without (innocent) users knowing they are on them. Grandma just wants to hang out in /c/sewingclub and ask about cross-stitch. She’s not going to stick around when she asks why she didn’t see a comment and gets called a nazi. (Maybe she is one, but point stands.)

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        My sleep deprived brain made out of it “Grandma just wants to hang out in /c/swingclub …”

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        Grandma is using lemmy, where? Id be shocked, i get the merits, im not excusing the behavior of my instance because we host it that way but like i said its two communities out of like 150 that contain edgy material, its the free spee Absolutism that gets us ppl, not the bigotry imo, im not interested in banning ppl, important to note I’ve always been welcoming and helpful to ppl throughout the fediverse and helped many ppl understand how to use it better, personally when visiting other instances im on good behavior and ive sent dm’s to the users on EH that crossed over snd caused trouble, fwiw, im trying the best i can experimenting with free speech absolutism and being to say as i please on my own instance, i get the outrage though im not dumb. I really wanted it to be a debate center to bridge the gap between left abd right, that was the initial mission three years ago

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          Sorry to bother you once again. I think here is actually the notable part of this thread. This is interesting:

          I really wanted it to be a debate center to bridge the gap between left abd right, that was the initial mission three years ago

          Without a demand for a quick answer … if this is so then it’s a noble cause gone astray somewhere. I’m thinking, without knowing any of the story, could this be somehow put back on track? I mean, as it is now many people on both sides are doing the opposite; they go yet more polarising. This could have little to do with EH, or it could indeed be a systemic failure of how EH is supposed to work. – I’m always thinking when i chat with some stranger online, how would be their reaction if they met me “irl” … because they have no idea even closely, about who i am and about my lifestyle. How would certain people behave when we would meet in person? – The reality is that we crtainly exhibit a different persona in a restricted environment like this. All the cues of meeting a real person are missing, and all that remains is the words. We know from experience that certain natural restraints are not there if the perception of there being a real person is mostly missing. People are more or less aware of this. There is a perceived distance to the other, or even a perception of them being “unreal” (that’s what i have sometimes).

          Coming to the point, perhaps that idea of absolute free speech just doesn’t work in such an environment? It might work in a setting where people can meet and learn to know each other personally, but in a text-only setting there is little that would naturally (neurologically) make them interact in a respectful way.
          Hope it’s understandable what i mean.

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            You guys are voting to be done with us at eh, it will pass most likely, probably best not to speak on it anymore, take care And wish you the best,

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              Same to you. And I wish that one day, you’ll stop being influenced by hateful disinformation that only profits those who want you angry. I’m persuaded there’s good in you.

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                We all have our own truth, trying to understand each other is what is important at least in my mind. I wish you the best of luck in all that you do. I pray God blesses you with good health and a life of joy. Take care and have a great weekend.

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                  Believe me, I understand that our differences comes from our life experience and upbringing among other things. And I don’t expect nor ask you to stop leaning right; there’s many right leaning people that I respect, my late head of section from graduate first (“lift yourself by the bootstraps” kind of guy, strong views on wedding, immigration, etc… but nevertheless a consistent and actually respectful person, even of things he didn’t understand). However, it does anger me to see someone fall prey to a brand of populism that actually goes against their values, given that it profits the elites they’re wary of.

                  But it’s not some words on a screen from a complete stranger that’ll suddenly change your worldview, that’s for sure.

                  Anyway, a great week-end to you too!

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      That’s fair, i have made several posts about block features so idk, i enjoy coming to this instance though, i never caused trouble here i just enjoy certain niche stuff

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        Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

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          Powerful and Continuing Nationalism Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

          Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of “need.” The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

          Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

          Supremacy of the Military Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

          Rampant Sexism The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

          Controlled Mass Media Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

          Obsession with National Security Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

          Religion and Government are Intertwined Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government’s policies or actions.

          Corporate Power is Protected The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

          Labor Power is Suppressed Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .

          Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

          Obsession with Crime and Punishment Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

          Rampant Cronyism and Corruption Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

          Fraudulent Elections Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

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            Please let me know if there’s any point you disagree with. Also please let me know what political party you can think of that the above is starting to describe.

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        “cz” means “because”? Ah it probably comes from a shorter “cause” -> “cuz” -> “cz”. Makes it quite difficult to read ta be honest but yeah, thanks for the explanation.

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      A small instance that you would really had to look for us and truly ignore block features on two communities out of 150 maybe that contain edgy content to see stuff that is offensive

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          It seems yoou forgot that you are posting in another instance. Please stop your aggressivity. It’s not wanted here, and i think we could get this user banned.

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              … And btw, here is my take on “racism”. I have a degree in biology, and to my knowledge, the notion of “race” (more precisely: subspecies) in humans has been abandoned decades ago. Therefore, who ever speaks of “races” in humans, is necessarily a racist. :-)
              Now look at the colour of your skin. What colour is it, exactly? – Mine is a great range of shades of yellowish-brownish-reddish, depending on the part of the body; it’s usually darker brownish in summer because i’m under the sun a lot. So please don’t call me “white”. People would guess that i’m an Egyptian but i’m not. :-)

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              No i won’t. I’m not a racist either, if you mean to say that. You are just taking your trolling to shitjustworks, and here you are asked to behave a bit different. As i read it, @wigglehard came to complain about your aggressive behaviour, so here is my response. I have responded to him as well, but he is not normally as obnoxious as you play it here. Please go play somewhere else.

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          Again your addiction to your rage is disturbing, just block me, but you wont because you are a far leftist on a political mission following me around causing scenes

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    Keep it up wiggles, with people like you behind the movement I am sure racism and intolerance will be back in style soon!

    Can I still call you Sandra or was that all just teasing?

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    Since you deleted your other post let me say it again. I think you are a pedophile and a groomer.

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    I really hope the more vitriolic people choose to stay on Reddit, I have been enjoying not seeing the antagonising language.