In the UK, maybe other places, apple still has to use normal sim cards. All except that Air, because it just cant. Theres no room. I might have given the phone a shot, if I could have just popped my sim in and took it for a spin. But with having to fuck about with esims, the answer was no.
I wouldnt say no to a new mini though…
Good, let that atrocity burn and bring back the mini you blundering idiots!
The price is off. It’s more expensive than the base model but with worse specs. If someone is willing to pay more, they’ll get the pro, not the air.
Also shows people dont really care about a thinner phone
Worse camera and battery than the regular iPhone 17 but higher price. I can’t put my finger on why it doesn’t sell…
I’m perfectly happy with mine.
Me too buddy, there are dozens of us! Lol. The air happens to fit my needs perfectly. I want a thin and light phone, don’t really use my camera and battery usage is fine. I can totally appreciate if somebody is a heavy user this phone isn’t for them.
As for the price, yup it’s expensive. Feels like holding a piece of jewellery, and that’s nice.
It’s totally fine that you both like it and I’m not saying it’s a bad phone at all. It’s certainly very beautiful, probably feels nice in the hand and is overall a competent iPhone with just less camera. But most people are looking at the price, compare it to the other models and see that it just doesn’t make sense. It’s a pure luxury product that is still cheaper than a Pro so who exactly is the audience?
A thin phone is kinda cool, who actually needs that? And because of the humongous camera bulge it’s not that thin anyway.
I liked when my iPhone was a uniform thickness. The dumb camera bit is dumb.
Apple offers 7 years of of ios updates, how about a battery large enough that it is still usable after a few years of use.
I used my 8 plus (or whatever the flagship was at that time) for 8 years and for 7.5 years the battery was fine. In the last six months I had some issues when it died before the alarm went off, hence the new device. I do miss the fingerprint reader and 3D touch though.
Biggest selling point of Ultra watches and Pro phones. People are tired of constipated battery specs from Apple and releasing a phone which worsen this aspect was going to fail miserably… it doesn’t have even 1/10 of the wow factor to succeed with the trade offs it brings
Rocking my iPhone 11 Pro Max with original battery and holding out for the Fold.
Hopefully next year!
Six years is pretty impressive.
Nobody „needs“ it. But plenty of people „want“ it.
if this was my year to upgrade i might have gotten one. I use a magsafe wallet which evens out the back with the camera bulge.
99% of my days the battery would probably be sufficient, but if I’m going on a trip or whatever I can use a magsafe charger. You can’t do the opposite with a thick phone; you’re just carrying unnecessary bulk every single day.
the main issue for me is the price. I like the idea, but I’m not sure how much of a premium I want to pay for it, if any.
The bulk is genuinely noticeable to you? The original iPhone feels bulky? I’m not being facetious, I’m intrigued that there are people who felt the current iPhone design is too bulky.
Think of the inventory space from unsold Airs could have been spared without the bump! Apple logistics in shambles
Apple needs it. So people break their devices even easier and have to spend more money.
It’s more durable than you’d expect https://youtu.be/sQ56ve39l2I
Imagine how durable it could be if it wasn’t thin as hell.
BRING BACK MINI!
Customers: We want a smaller phone!
Apple: *Makes iPhone Air
Customers: Not like that!
I want one the size of an ipod mini as a secondary phone.
They learned nothing from bend-gate on the 6
You’re spreading false information. The air doesn’t bend
Nu-uh, there’s literally like 8 seasons worth of a docuseries on Nickelodeon about airbending!
I’m not spreading any information, I’m complaining about them releasing a thin phone when I want a small phone.
Please don’t lie. Your message directly implies that the new phone bends like the 6. If you were referencing small phones you would have brought up the mini.
Jesus, “please don’t lie”? I have directly stated that I want a mini and commented on a thin phone.
I have Apple stocks too but you need to take the internet less serious my friend. The stock price won’t drop because a random dude on the internet is mocking past mistakes.
I don’t give a shit about Apple or any other company. I do care about misinformation
Ars says no bendgate with the Air. Different design. Thin part is just battery and reinforced housing.
@Yesbutnotreally Those flimsy ass phones were insane, a far bigger Jonny Ive controversy than the thin ass MacBooks. They’d bend from putting them in your jeans pocket!
It might have UX problems at this point? Maybe that’s why they’re hesitant.
if it was a lower price than the standard model it’d sell more
I don’t need a super thin iphone. I want an iphone that has full bars in my kitchen. And gtfo with that pricing.
I remembered posting that I wondered who the hell would buy this. Now I know it’s exactly who I thought.
You mean a bad economy and poor pay for the average worker compounds into a worse economy?
I actually really liked it when I tried, so I got one. I realized that I do want a phone that makes its presence more lightly known.
I want that too but just make it smaller. I don’t want a giant screen burning through battery and just thinner by taking away battery. Work on x and y first, then maybe z.
yiss. bring back the mini.
The battery life is a non issue for me so far.
honestly though how much battery do you need on an average day?
I’m not worried about average days.
With how much we depend on the phone for everything, I need a phone that covers 99% of the days, not just the average.
For being in the office working, 90 min of active usage gets me to the next charger.
What about going it’s out with the family, taking lots of photos and videos, using the maps+GPS…?
Also, battery degrades. One that barely covers today will be lacking in 1.5 years. Small battery is a form of planned obsolesce.
I’m genuinely curious. How does this fit your normal usage? Does the bulk under the camera not negate the thin body?
I guess, could you just expand on your thought.
It’s much lighter both in my pocket and my hands. It feels much less obtrusive in a pocket overall despite the bump, which when holding it one-handed can sometimes even be an affordance that keeps it from slipping.
the vast majority of people put cases around their phones which eliminates the camera protrusion. If you do use a case with an Air, it’ll still be thinner than the other iphone options.
I know “who is this for?” and “what would Steve Jobs say?” are tired memes, but… still. An even thinner body? Really?
Can’t believe the thickest iPhone ever is selling so poorly.
Is it actually the thickest? I know the stuff about it being the thinnest is a bold face lie.
I was curious: looks like at the bump the Air is ~0.28mm thinner than the OG iPhone. So no, but it’s damn close.
Lmao.
Is the number for the OG average or the biggest thickness. The earlier models were rounded/not a prism.
The OG iPhone was flat. Only the 3G (2nd Gen) and 3Gs (3rd Gen) had rounded backs.
Oh. oops. Thanks for the catch
Bend gate 2.0 with a crappy battery for too much money.
Gee, I wonder why they aren’t selling?
the air stands up to absurdly high bend forces in tests and there was certainly no “bend gate 2.0”
That may be so, but perception is reality. Nobody trusts it. The first thing everyone thinks is “that’s going to bend”. It doesn’t need to be true to sway people’s purchase.
No it isn’t.
Ok I’m sorry. You’re right. It’s selling like hotcakes then.
or maybe there are other reasons people don’t want it. crazy huh.
yeah, like who the fuck wants a phone with 60% battery of what a MUCH cheaper phone has?
jerryrig battle tested that phone, and sure, props to Apple for building it so tough. but nobody cares about a thin unbreakable phone.
