• nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    18 hours ago

    They were picked to vote this way beause their seats are either not up for election next year or they’re retiring. Schumer masterminded this but voted no himself in a form of fake resistance. We have to punish more than just this list or nothing changes. It’s a big setup and they’re trying to play us for fools.

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      18 hours ago

      Schumer masterminded this

      Bruh…

      Schumer isn’t a “mastermind” anymore than trump is. I’m not defending him, I’m saying he’s too stupid and ineffective for your theory.

      Him and other neoliberal “leadership” were just middlemen between a corrupt DNC and elected Dem politicians. If people didn’t vote how the corrupt DNC wanted, then they cut off funding to the whole state party.

      They “led” like terrorists.

      Tim Kaine was one of those shitty corrupt DNC chairs, and got paid back by being one of Hillary’s VP picks.

      If anyone masterminded this, it was him. He’s a bigger problem then any household name in the Dem party. And is 100% ok letting republicans win general elections to prevent progressives from getting in office. He’d 100% sabotage the party/movement to stop progressives from gaining ground.

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        Yeah. Let’s be clear here, Schumer leads like an Applebee’s store manager: He gets point-by-point instructions from corporate. Not a thought required.

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      Well that’s…a bit conspiracy heavy I suppose.

      The other explanation is that they are from states harder hit from the shutdown, and this essentially gets everyone paid right now and sets up this vote from two weeks from now where they can just shut it down again if the GOP doesn’t pony up.

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            I would assume that yes. The more progressive wing of democrats have been fed up with Chuck for a long time and so have a lot of the voters. Allowing riskier seats to have plausible deniability is the whole purpose of having the least risky seats be the ones to break. What worries me is Chuck is more than likely not the only one voting no now that there’s enough yes votes but secretly in favor of it. How are we going to find those other people?

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            https://prospect.org/2025/11/08/why-does-schumer-keep-trying-to-cave-government-shutdown/

            Here’s what occurred. It has been widely assumed that the group of eight mostly centrist Senate Democrats, who have been looking to broker a hollow deal on Republican terms, were freelancing. In fact, they were acting with the express approval of Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and were reporting to him daily.

            https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/10/schumer-is-no-longer-effective-dems-outraged-over-shutdown-deal-00644253

            Seth Moulton (D-Mass.) accused Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer of being ineffective and called for his removal.

            In this article Seth Moulton calls for Schumers removal putting the blame on him, because he knows what Chuck was doing. He’s far from the only Democrat calling our Schumer specifically for this.

            https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m5bpyndmlp2u

            Clip from faux news

            KILMEADE: Schumer says he’s voting no. Did you do this outside leadership?

            SHAHEEN: No. We kept leadership informed throughout.

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              In fact, they were acting with the express approval of Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and were reporting to him daily.

              Uh…

              That first link definitely says that, but it doesn’t actually back it up with anything…

              The second link is a politician accusing Schumer of being ineffective, which is 100% true…

              The third is fucking Faux News and just says Schumer was “informed”…

              Like, not only do none of those three links back up what you’re saying, if anything they paint the picture that Schumer is ineffective and couldn’t have done anything if he wanted. Which is the most likely explanation.

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                16 hours ago

                Please. Schumer has been Republicans useful idiot for years. He’s spineless when it comes to standing against them. Has been for years

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                  Schumer has been Republicans useful idiot for years. He’s spineless

                  I’m not disagreeing with that…

                  But that doesn’t mean he’s some fucking masteind that set this up.

                  He’s too incompetent to do really anything, and the 10 that voted with republicans didn’t need anyone to convince them. Because they’re as big, or bigger, pieces of shit than Schumer.

                  Like, one of them is an ex DNC chair during some of the DNC’s darkest times where we handed republicans a shit ton of seats to block progressives.

                  I know Schumer is the household name and all, but nothing in that comment made logical sense or even accurately represented what the link articles were saying.

                  We can’t afford to just blame the easy targets, because that leaves the rel problems.

                  Stop falling for fucking scape goats