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    Oh, you’re ready to watch it all burn down? That’s just swell. You’re not just going to sit on your ass and wait for someone else to burn it down, right? Because that would just be letting the worse candidate win so you can keep your hands ‘clean’ because you’re in a position comfortable enough to sit on your hands and play the part of the moralist as others suffer, so long as you don’t examine your own inaction too closely.

    Right?

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      If all you do is vote once every other year, what right do you have to say that person should do more to support their ideas than you do for yours? People who say what you say also say stuff like “I dont like biden but . . .” And no one asks them to prove they tried to field a better candidate than Biden to prove it.

      If you’re voting for someone you consider the ‘less evil’ option but then do nothing to fix the evil you voted for, you’re exactly the same as the person you criticized.

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        what right do you have to say that person should do more to support their ideas than you do for yours

        I’m not advocating a fucking civil war.

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          That doesn’t make your statement less hypocritical. You didn’t call them out for wanting a civil war, you called them out for only voting to achieve their goals.

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            … can you describe to me how someone, who advocates civic participation in democracy, a form of action to improve the world, calling out the hypocrisy of someone else, who advocates sitting around hoping things get worse, in the hopes that someone else will start a civil war, a form of action to improve the world, is, itself, hypocrisy?

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              Honestly probably not, you continue to show you have no interest in understanding any reasoning other than your own which you seem to think is the ONLY way to achieve just and desirable goals. It’s right there in the first reply I gave you, but now you want to water it down with whose ambitions are just and whose are not. Theses have no bearing on what you choose to mock them for, which was their means of obtaining their goal. If you wanna mock them for being dumb and self destructive go ahead and do that, but you didn’t do that you mocked the amount of effort they applied, then got mad when it was pointed out that it’s just about the same amount of effort you apply.

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                If you wanna mock them for being dumb and self destructive go ahead and do that, but you didn’t do that.

                Man, I’m not responsible for your lack of reading comprehension.

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                  so long as you don’t examine your own inaction too closely.

                  Re-read you own comment, not for any argument or point I’m making, but just for your own benefit, you could learn from yourself once you realize you’re not above your own advice. If you wanna mock someone else’s effort, best be sure you’re actually doing something meaningful, because voting is not much harder than abstaining in protest. Both are interactions with the electoral system and both only impact the electoral system.

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                    I am literally advocating for civic participation in the system as a means of change, and I engage in civic participation in the system.

                    They are literally advocating for civil war as a means of change, but refuse to engage in any behavior that would contribute to that goal.

                    That you can’t see that one is hypocritical and one isn’t says more about you than me.

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        Clearly comfortable enough to embrace it getting worse. Some of us will quite literally die without government-subsidized healthcare, or food assistance, or social security, all things on the GOP chopping block. You want to watch my grandparents die they’re kicked out on the streets and unable to pay rent or food? Want to watch me vomit blood until I exsanguinate because the medication the government subsidizes is hundreds of dollars more a month than I make, period, much less can afford? You have fun with that. I sure as shit won’t.