• cerevant@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    If you charge me for service, I’m not paying extra for service.

    Call it what it is - a junk fee so they can make their prices look lower than they are. I wouldn’t go to this restaurant a second time.

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      By tradition, the service charge is supposed to be paid to the staff. Therefore, it’s not customary to tip when you’re assessed a service charge, although many restaurants choose to ask for a tip anyway.

      If you work in a restaurant that charges a service charge but pockets it… you’re being robbed.

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        1 year ago

        Unfortunately, this isn’t true anymore. At least in PA.

        34 Pa. Code 231.114. Service charges.

        § 231.114 b

        The notice required by subsection (a) must state that the administrative charge is for administration of the banquet, special function or package deal and does not include a tip to be distributed to the employees who provided service to the guests.

        https://www.pacodeandbulletin.gov/Display/pacode?file=/secure/pacode/data/034/chapter231/s231.114.html&d=reduce

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        If this restaurant was passing the entire service charge to its waitstaff, it would be advantageous to call it a gratuity and exempt it from sales and income tax. The IRS does not tax tips/gratuities as income.

        By charging (state) sales tax on the service fee, they also have to declare it as revenue, which increases their income and thus their income tax. They have to pay a portion of that service fee in income tax, so they aren’t going to be passing the full amount to their waitstaff. The restaurant will be keeping the bulk of that service fee.

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      1 year ago

      Heck, I wouldn’t even pay this restaurant the first time. I’m out. You ain’t making me pay extra after the fact.

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      The cost of food in American restaurants includes service charger. It just not itemized. Waiters do have salaries, so it comes from somewhere.

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        That’s my point. This restaurant is try to bait and switch their customers by giving a misleading food price and adding a service charge. It is like a cell phone company adding garbage fees.

        As for my initial comment - if you add a percentage for service, that ends my obligation to tip.

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          Ah! I see. You were talking exclusively about not coming back into US restaurant, not restaurant in general anywhere in the world. It was not clear for me.

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        1 year ago

        Hey, look at our cheap food!

        Oh, btw, we didn’t tell you, but it’s actually 18% more expensive than the prices on the menu.

        Also, it’s $10 extra for the plates and silverware.

        And we also charge you for eating in as well, that’s another $10.

        And if you don’t tip on top of that, we get really angry.

        Please leave a 5 star review!

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          And we also charge you for eating in as well, that’s another $10.

          Some areas actually have different pricing for eating in vs taking out, as it’s treated differently by the tax laws. Some areas also tax differently based on if it’s cold or hot/cooked food, so a toasted sandwich costs a bit more than an untoasted one. Very small differences, though.

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            1 year ago

            Yeah, my post was a bit of hyperbole, but I’ve been to a fancy restaurant a while ago, where they did make you pay for cutlery and also for the table separately.

            But they didn’t have a take-away option.