Asked whether they believed Trump has or has not “committed serious federal crimes,” 54 percent of poll respondents replied that he had. But 19 percent of them confirmed they’d still vote for this criminal ex-president in 2024. Along the same vein, 13 percent of those who believe Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election results “threatened American democracy” still plan to vote for him next year.

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    This is part of why the GOP has been manufacturing lies about Joe Biden being corrupt so urgently: They can’t convince most people that Trump isn’t a criminal so they’re trying to convince them that both candidates are criminals so it doesn’t matter.

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      I love how this is so patently obvious about Republican tactics, and just yesterday I had someone trying to argue that this isn’t an inherently Republican talking point. “They’re all crooks, so they’re both the same!”

      You can’t convince me that some of them aren’t Russian trolls looking to stir dissent and destabilize the nation.

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        There’s obviously Russian troll farms but when researchers published their memes and other posts, they were often kind of weird and didn’t gain wide reach.

        So, my theory is that we don’t need Russian trolls to destabilize the nation. We have plenty of political marketing firms right here in America that have a deeper cultural understanding and an equal amount of shamelessness.

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          It would be so American if Russia hired an American firm to destabilize ourselves because we have a better understanding of the zeitgeist here.

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      Ah yes! Biden is so corrupt that the GOP had to go after his son, who isn’t a politician, in order to get anything on him…

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        And are still failing to make anything meaningful stick - despite having “mountains of evidence” lol

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      Right, because Biden wasn’t involved and set up Hunter countless times with his backroom China deals right? Biden hasn’t been accused a dozen times long before he was POTUS of inapprotiate shit with women, Hillary wasn’t busted with her off the books shit with her home server and emails…RIGHT??? Don’t kid yourself.

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        Small potatoes compared to the opposition. How do we give you a wider perspective?

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        Countless times?

        Dozens of times?

        The hyperbole isn’t helping you. You might have an argument if you actually stuck to one or two substantive examples, rather than throwing out ridiculous numbers.