• candyman337@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    The brain drain of the US is already happening, this is about to make it 10 times worse and faster

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      10 days ago

      Trump: good riddance! To grow corn, drill oil and kill bearded guys on the pickups we need 40-50 million citizens. Loyal citizens. Others should go. Abroad or in grave, I don’t care

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      10 days ago

      The abuse of the H-1B program is something we do need to address. I doubt Taco is doing this for the right reasons, and I also fear he may be screwing with the non-industry H-1Bs, too.

      I think we should get rid of H-1Bs for the tech industry and instead offer a fast-track to full citizenship for those that qualify, instead. Don’t tie them to companies and then see how many get hired by these companies that supposedly “cannot find that talent in the United States”. I call bullshit on that claim.

      As others have pointed out, there are non-industry H-1Bs that are actually top talent with advanced degrees and needed for research. Maybe find a way to overhaul that as well, and offer them full citizenship that is very rapidly approved and done with.

      This temporary indentured servant stuff has got to end, though.

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        Not everyone who wants to work in the US has any interest in becoming a US citizen.

        But if you want the industry H1-B program to operate as anything but a wage-suppression scheme, break the tie between the visa and the sponsoring company. If someone is granted an H1-B, make it for a defined period, and within that pariod, allow them to work for any US company.

        “cannot find that talent in the United States”.

        I was a hiring manager in the software industry. That claim is indeed bullshit in all but vanishingly rare cases. Employers like the H1-B holders because they are disempowered, underpaid and have no job security. There’s a whole cottage industry of middlemen who will give fake substantiation to the “no American can do the job” claim: for example, by requiring some vendor-specific skill set that happens to be taught at an Indian university, but not in the US, because US universities mostly avoid being trade schools. And because anyone with a strong CS background could pick it up in a week.

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        I agree that it should be addressed, but I think the program still has its place. For example, I’m currently in the process of resolving an H-1B issue with a candidate with an accepted offer. That candidate was the best candidate for the role by a wide margin.

        But I do think the program should be constrained. Allocations should be limited on a per-company basis as a ratio against total number of employees based in the US. In other words, for every H-1B hire, you need N regular employees.

        Companies used to do the hard work of building a funnel from university and have backed off in recent years. Some of that is AI. But I think some of it is intentional manipulation with rolling layoffs to keep the employee market soft and diminish the negotiating power of current and prospective employees to zero. If the H-1B tap were to run dry, the employee market would gain strength and companies would have to invest once again in that university pipeline.

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      10 days ago

      Yeah, it feels like this is the price you pay officially but if you donate to a specific account your employee visas are processed without any fees

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    10 days ago

    The funny part is, this means anyone coming in is all but guaranteed to be paid less than an American to do the same job, because the company is likely to consider that 100k part of the employees compensation.

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      10 days ago

      Not if the program is enforced at all. Ideally, that enforcement would given appropriate attention, along with slapping tariffs on outsourcing services.

      Not that I expect Taco to really have much follow-through or give this much of a thought after the photo-op of signing the EO…

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        10 days ago

        I would not be surprised if the agency that has to enforce this was caught by surprise just like anyone.