• grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org
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    25 days ago

    I don’t know. There’s an argument to be made that as a group gains more power in Western society (or at least in America) they become white. See: Irish, Italian, and Polish immigrants to America.

    I’m not willing to argue about it because I don’t have a solid thesis, but I am going to have that float around in my head for a bit and I invite comment and criticism of the idea.

    • Sunsofold@lemmings.world
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      23 days ago

      Not looking to argue either. It’s a thing that has been floating around in my head for years. People were judging people based on ethnicity for thousands of years before the modern focus on skin colour. (see ‘the Good Samaritan’ as an easy example) And people have been confusing power with quality for just as long. (prosperity doctrine, etc.) Some people like the use of the colour word ‘white’ for ‘accepted by those in power,’ but that feels, to me, too much like buying in on the racial worldview. It seems foolish to try to argue that race is a nonsense concept while continuing to speak in the language of races. To give an example, arguing against racist nonsense while still referring to ‘black people’ like a sensible classification feels as weird to me as arguing against sexist nonsense while still referring to ‘womens’ work’ like a sensible classification or against Christian theocracy while still treating ‘Christendom’ as a useful term for western nation states. It’s the ‘master’s tools’ problem.

    • CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      24 days ago

      Fascism and authoritarianism is race blind but it is not money blind.

      The center of ever concentric circles of culture wars is people of obscene wealth. To put it another way, there is not a fascist country in this world that isn’t supported by rich assholes.