Since when does temporary unemployment imply corruption?
It makes me question where she’s funding her lifestyle.
Her campaign seems almost entirely social media and local charity work.
That’s bad. Real world efforts are necessary. Giving campaign funds to charity is sketchy at best when you’re showing it off to pretend you’re morally superior
She’s campaigning in a district where she will replace an 80 year old retiring progressive
Irrelevant as the 80 year is retiring anyways.
She has 200,000 followers which seems to have grown over time with several prominent videos.
So? Genuinely hilarious how irrelevant this point is.
Not here to reduce a woman to her husband, just pointing out a cool fact and rock-solid evidence that she’s probably legit - she’s MARRIED TO THE CEO OF THE COMPANY THAT OWNS THE ONION?! The source of the Pultizer-worthy headline, " ’ No Way to Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens"?
I had not heard this. However, it will not change my viewpoint that she’s as this post demonstrates running an extremely questionable and too early campaign, as well as being an out of district plant by not even trying to have lived a real period of time in the district she’s planning to run in.
She lives in Chicago, is campaigning in Chicago
The vast majority of the district is out of Chicago. Also, she’s not campaigning in Chicago. She’s campaigning online.
By the way, anyone in the back: did you watch the goal posts move? Did you watch us move right along, without defending the first claims?
Any one of the points is enough to make her not worth voting for. Her being out of district alone is ridiculous. If she genuinely cared, she should be running for a district she actually lived in. You are blatantly ignoring how much an issue an out of district congressperson is. Pretending it doesn’t matter just because you like the vibes of the candidate. And it really is just that and nothing more, just vibes. She has zero lower experience in politics, no record, no evidence of capability.
Especially when she’s consistently astroturfing reddits, it makes me question where her actual in district relations are. If she even has any.
She has past jobs, and a husband, as you’ve learned and instantly made up bullshit about
That’s BAD? Campaign financing is almost exclusively used for shit like billboards, TV ads, and wealthy silver spoon galas and you think it’s bad that she’s using hers for charity? What the fucking bad faith, Batman.
Almost all congresmen have extremely blatantly obvious corruption and political bribery, and you’re just pulling absolute bad faith bullshit from thin air about how giving crowd-funded money to charity is a bad thing.
Get the fuck out of here. Unbelievable.
The fact is she has a large social media presence that explains her funding, her campaign strategy, and her so-called “astroturfing”. Which, again - if you gain a large part of your political support from an organic social media presence primarily focused on progressive politics, that’s the goddamn definition of grassroots, the literal fucking origin and opposite of the term “astro-turf”’
Especially when she’s consistently astroturfing reddits, it makes me question where her actual
Ohhh, you still give a shit about Reddit. Okay, now I understand the type of conversation this is. L, O, fucking, L.
That’s BAD? Campaign financing is almost exclusively used for shit like billboards, TV ads, and wealthy silver spoon galas and you think it’s bad that she’s using hers for charity? What the fucking bad faith, Batman.
Yes. It’s buying votes. Giving people food sith the clear implication of asking them to vote for her.
Ohhh, you still give a shit about Reddit. Okay, now I understand the type of conversation this is. L, O, fucking, L.
So her astroturfing is irrelevant just because it’s on reddit. Ah, you’re that sort of person. I don’t even have reddit downloaded anymore; you’re making a bold assumption on that front.
Almost all congresmen have extremely blatantly obvious corruption and political bribery, and you’re just pulling absolute bad faith bullshit from thin air about how giving crowd-funded money to charity is a bad thing.
This is pure what aboutism. Seriously? You’re seriously pulling what aboutism?
The fact is she has a large social media presence that explains her funding, her campaign strategy, and her so-called “astroturfing”.
Yeah surely swarms of people saying only good things about her and drawing 5x more engagement on city specific subreddits than other posts is just people loving her.
I did not instantly make up bullshit about her husband. And additionally, “past jobs” are not important, past political experience is important.
My friend, you keep throwing bullshit out, getting it wrong, and moving right along. You know there’s no evidence for your claims about how she’s funding her “lifestyle”, you know there’s no reason to claim she’s corrupt because you allege without evidence that she’s supported by her parents, which is totally goddamn normal in this goddamn economy, and you know you have no evidence that there’s actual corruption with her funding, unlike - oh no! Whataboutism! Unlike almost all of fucking congress.
That’s not how whataboutism works. When you have a mountain of public evidence of elected officials being bought and paid for, and no verifiable evidence that Kat is bought and paid for, it’s just pointing out bad fucking faith arguments.
I’m not taking anything you say on good faith, because you keep getting shit wrong and not acknowledging any of it.
Giving people food with the clear imication of asking people to vote for her
Hah. Sorry everybody - according to OP, we can’t have any more medicaid, welfare, food stamps, or school lunches. It turns out helping people is corruption.
It’s relevant when my current representative is not. She’s valued under a million dollars. You’re bringing in other reps corruption — when jan was, while too old, she was not some corrupt ass mfer.
That’s exactly how whataboutism works.
You’re completely ignoring that she still doesn’t live in district —instead of trying to contest a republican, or someone actually determinatal, she selected a safe seat to run, in a place she does not live, and never has. that alone is a major issue.
You are the type to see gangs providing people food and disaster relief and think “yeah, it’s purely good! We shouldn’t question it!”
No, I’m not terribly hung up on the location thing. I think they should absolutely be local, and she’s pretty goddamn close. I wouldn’t disapprove of someone from Chicago running in Los Angeles, for example. Provided that person is showing the fuck up and helping the people of LA.
Jan is literally retiring. I don’t think Kat had a chance of beating her in the primary but I also don’t think it’s a bad thing to run against her anyway, and I’m not whatabouting her funding with Jan’s. I think it’s entirely valid to run in a district when you clearly align with the values of that district.
Whataboutism is pretending something is okay because somebody else does it too.
But you don’t have actual evidence for that something. So it’s not whataboutism to bring up the fact that we know what that evidence looks like, and you don’t fucking have it.
I’m happy to question anything and everything. But only for the purpose of finding answers. That means you need to bring actual goddamn evidence to answer those questions. But you don’t, do you? You’re just asking questions.
No, I’m not terribly hung up on the location thing. I think they should absolutely be local, and she’s pretty goddamn close
She only just moved into the state less than a year ago…
Not caring about the location is for a different political system. In ours, location is important.
I think it’s entirely valid to run in a district when you clearly align with the values of that district.
What indicates that to you? You don’t live here, do you know the values of the area?
But you don’t, do you? You’re just asking questions.
I have provided explicit evidence in the form of largely out of state donations and not being in district as to show why she should not be elected in the district. As well as vote buying through using campaign funds in charity.
you don’t fucking have it.*
No, you just think it’s fine for someone who has not even lived in an area to represent them. That’s just a recipe for pure corruption. It means they won’t actually understand the values or wants of the areas. You are simply pretending it is fine because it suits your views best
Lol carpet bagging stopped being actual evidence of corruption a long time ago.
I think her values align with that district because she’s highly progressive, and that district has consistently elected a highly progressive representative.
Moving to that district is not explicit evidence of corruption. Taking large donations from oil companies, health insurance companies, foreign heads of state… that’s explicit evidence of corruption.
What you believe you have is implicit evidence of corruption. Not explicit. And you just. Don’t. Have it.
I do think it’s fine for someone to represent anyone from any area - as long as they can convince the people from that area to vote for them. It’s not like she’s running for city council, she’s running for federal government. We have way too many problems - problems that are affecting all Americans - to get hung up on your place of residence or birth.
But, y’know? I’d be a lot more likely to listen to your point here, if you didn’t bob and weave through so many layers of random accusations and bullshit to get here. You’ve picked - and subsequently abandoned - a whole bunch of other shit to throw at the wall, just to see what sticks.
What you believe you have is implicit evidence of corruption. Not explicit. And you just. Don’t. Have it.
I feel like you’re failing to understand that my annoyance at her not living in district is not the same issue, though it is a contributing factor, in why I think she’s likely corrupt.
I do think it’s fine for someone to represent anyone from any area - as long as they can convince the people from that area to vote for them
A complete difference in foundational thought of what makes someone a good fit for an area will go no where in discussion.
if you didn’t bob and weave through so many layers of random accusations and bullshit to get here
My point on her being out of district was from the start.
It makes me question where she’s funding her lifestyle.
That’s bad. Real world efforts are necessary. Giving campaign funds to charity is sketchy at best when you’re showing it off to pretend you’re morally superior
Irrelevant as the 80 year is retiring anyways.
So? Genuinely hilarious how irrelevant this point is.
I had not heard this. However, it will not change my viewpoint that she’s as this post demonstrates running an extremely questionable and too early campaign, as well as being an out of district plant by not even trying to have lived a real period of time in the district she’s planning to run in.
The vast majority of the district is out of Chicago. Also, she’s not campaigning in Chicago. She’s campaigning online.
Any one of the points is enough to make her not worth voting for. Her being out of district alone is ridiculous. If she genuinely cared, she should be running for a district she actually lived in. You are blatantly ignoring how much an issue an out of district congressperson is. Pretending it doesn’t matter just because you like the vibes of the candidate. And it really is just that and nothing more, just vibes. She has zero lower experience in politics, no record, no evidence of capability.
Especially when she’s consistently astroturfing reddits, it makes me question where her actual in district relations are. If she even has any.
Almost all congresmen have extremely blatantly obvious corruption and political bribery, and you’re just pulling absolute bad faith bullshit from thin air about how giving crowd-funded money to charity is a bad thing.
Get the fuck out of here. Unbelievable.
The fact is she has a large social media presence that explains her funding, her campaign strategy, and her so-called “astroturfing”. Which, again - if you gain a large part of your political support from an organic social media presence primarily focused on progressive politics, that’s the goddamn definition of grassroots, the literal fucking origin and opposite of the term “astro-turf”’
Ohhh, you still give a shit about Reddit. Okay, now I understand the type of conversation this is. L, O, fucking, L.
Yes. It’s buying votes. Giving people food sith the clear implication of asking them to vote for her.
So her astroturfing is irrelevant just because it’s on reddit. Ah, you’re that sort of person. I don’t even have reddit downloaded anymore; you’re making a bold assumption on that front.
This is pure what aboutism. Seriously? You’re seriously pulling what aboutism?
Yeah surely swarms of people saying only good things about her and drawing 5x more engagement on city specific subreddits than other posts is just people loving her.
I did not instantly make up bullshit about her husband. And additionally, “past jobs” are not important, past political experience is important.
My friend, you keep throwing bullshit out, getting it wrong, and moving right along. You know there’s no evidence for your claims about how she’s funding her “lifestyle”, you know there’s no reason to claim she’s corrupt because you allege without evidence that she’s supported by her parents, which is totally goddamn normal in this goddamn economy, and you know you have no evidence that there’s actual corruption with her funding, unlike - oh no! Whataboutism! Unlike almost all of fucking congress.
That’s not how whataboutism works. When you have a mountain of public evidence of elected officials being bought and paid for, and no verifiable evidence that Kat is bought and paid for, it’s just pointing out bad fucking faith arguments.
I’m not taking anything you say on good faith, because you keep getting shit wrong and not acknowledging any of it.
Hah. Sorry everybody - according to OP, we can’t have any more medicaid, welfare, food stamps, or school lunches. It turns out helping people is corruption.
It’s relevant when my current representative is not. She’s valued under a million dollars. You’re bringing in other reps corruption — when jan was, while too old, she was not some corrupt ass mfer.
That’s exactly how whataboutism works.
You’re completely ignoring that she still doesn’t live in district —instead of trying to contest a republican, or someone actually determinatal, she selected a safe seat to run, in a place she does not live, and never has. that alone is a major issue.
You are the type to see gangs providing people food and disaster relief and think “yeah, it’s purely good! We shouldn’t question it!”
No, I’m not terribly hung up on the location thing. I think they should absolutely be local, and she’s pretty goddamn close. I wouldn’t disapprove of someone from Chicago running in Los Angeles, for example. Provided that person is showing the fuck up and helping the people of LA.
Jan is literally retiring. I don’t think Kat had a chance of beating her in the primary but I also don’t think it’s a bad thing to run against her anyway, and I’m not whatabouting her funding with Jan’s. I think it’s entirely valid to run in a district when you clearly align with the values of that district.
Whataboutism is pretending something is okay because somebody else does it too.
But you don’t have actual evidence for that something. So it’s not whataboutism to bring up the fact that we know what that evidence looks like, and you don’t fucking have it.
I’m happy to question anything and everything. But only for the purpose of finding answers. That means you need to bring actual goddamn evidence to answer those questions. But you don’t, do you? You’re just asking questions.
She only just moved into the state less than a year ago…
Not caring about the location is for a different political system. In ours, location is important.
What indicates that to you? You don’t live here, do you know the values of the area?
I have provided explicit evidence in the form of largely out of state donations and not being in district as to show why she should not be elected in the district. As well as vote buying through using campaign funds in charity.
No, you just think it’s fine for someone who has not even lived in an area to represent them. That’s just a recipe for pure corruption. It means they won’t actually understand the values or wants of the areas. You are simply pretending it is fine because it suits your views best
Lol carpet bagging stopped being actual evidence of corruption a long time ago.
I think her values align with that district because she’s highly progressive, and that district has consistently elected a highly progressive representative.
Moving to that district is not explicit evidence of corruption. Taking large donations from oil companies, health insurance companies, foreign heads of state… that’s explicit evidence of corruption.
What you believe you have is implicit evidence of corruption. Not explicit. And you just. Don’t. Have it.
I do think it’s fine for someone to represent anyone from any area - as long as they can convince the people from that area to vote for them. It’s not like she’s running for city council, she’s running for federal government. We have way too many problems - problems that are affecting all Americans - to get hung up on your place of residence or birth.
But, y’know? I’d be a lot more likely to listen to your point here, if you didn’t bob and weave through so many layers of random accusations and bullshit to get here. You’ve picked - and subsequently abandoned - a whole bunch of other shit to throw at the wall, just to see what sticks.
You can vote for whoever you want lol. Cheers.
I feel like you’re failing to understand that my annoyance at her not living in district is not the same issue, though it is a contributing factor, in why I think she’s likely corrupt.
A complete difference in foundational thought of what makes someone a good fit for an area will go no where in discussion.
My point on her being out of district was from the start.