Also noteworthy that not only are PS5 sales behind PS4, but the PlayStation’s competition has almost entirely disappeared, and that hasn’t resulted in more PlayStations sold.

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    This generation lacked must play games or technological breakthroughs. It was just kinda… there?

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      System based exclusives meaning you might not be able to play a game you want to in the future, expensive subscriptiona needed to play online, push to digital DRM controlled games… it’s almost like consoles killed themselves?

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        Well the alternative is PC gaming, and building a competitive PC aint cheap. I remember on launch people were building computers with similar performance to the xbone/ps4. But now that entry level dGPUs aren’t a thing, and even mid range GPUs are expensive you get fucked either way.

        The PS5 is at least powerful on launch. The 4 was on par with like a regular APU.

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            A certified refurbished ps5 can be had right at this moment for $399, $450 new. I game on PC for many other reasons but the performance for value is pretty amazing on the ps5

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                Same, yeah I mean once you’re established the actual cost of games on steam is ludicrously small depending on your habits. I’m pretty much locked-in to pc gaming simply for the love of indie titles that more often than not do not get published to consoles. Lots of those games are just straight up free

                We also have to consider the value the computer itself serves beyond just gaming. If you’re gonna get a $500 ps5 and you’re already going for an $800-$1200 computer, well hey. You could really get the best of both worlds without affecting the budget. Probably could even save money

                But I think there’s also a big group that isn’t in that situation. I know plenty of people who rock like a chromebook and the cheapest xbox. Or people who only play like NBA 2k or something. Or people who play 1-2 big titles a year when they get caught in the hype train, and can enjoy them at 4k60fps for the much lower upfront cost

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              You can also buy a used PC or laptop or CPU/GPU/…, buying them new when you want good performance for value is nonsense.

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                Certainly, but we’d then have to compare with the used ps5 market, which dips well below $300.

                Can a used pc or a build with used components be had with comparable performance to ps5? Even with a much larger budget of say, $800?

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                    Why not? Like I said the certified refurbished directly from Sony is $399. Plenty of listings up right now for $285-330

                    But even if we compare new consoles to used PCs I think the conclusion is the same

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          If you’re not too stuck on modern AAA titles, PC gaming is cheap. Possibly the cost of the electricity coming out of the wall.

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          I think more and more people have done the math on what your break-even is with a PC up front compared to noncompetitive digital console storefronts, needless forced obsolescence, and subscription fees.

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        I haven’t payed to play online in years. Like mid PS4 life. Online only games don’t require a subscription.

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        After Nintendo saw how much the Wii succeeded while effectively being a gamecube with motion controls and a DVD drive vs. two “top tier titans”, they never bothered again with being at the forefront of tech, which possibly felt like a homecoming, considering the Famicom was kinda underpowered at release, but cheap to produce.

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        Man, imagine if the PS6 launches and it’s just PS4 & 5 ports and “”“upgrades”“” all over again

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      technological breakthroughs

      What, the dumbass case design with the useless flat corner bits awkwardly sticking out of it wasn’t innovative enough for you?

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        Oh, if you’re a fighting game player, the innovation is impossible to miss. Now there’s only one USB port on the front, so when you play at locals and majors, you have to spin the console around to blow all the heat directly at the people trying to play a competitive match so that their controller cords will reach the additional USBs in back. Also it gets hot enough to melt the connectors that you’re plugging in there. Also we all had to update our controllers specifically for PS5 even though our PS4 controllers still functioned just fine. So innovative.

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      This is going to piss off some people, but I knew this generation was in trouble when HellDivers became big.

      That game isn’t hot garbage, per se, but the fact that it got the success it did is a pretty damning indictment of the state of multiplayer shooters.