• RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Well here in my part of the USA, I can hop in my car and be at the front door of several restaurants or grocery stores within 5 minutes because I live in a nice area with low population density. Traffic jams almost never happen in my area. I have my own house and land where I can do anything I want. I work from home most of the time and don’t have to travel at all. On the days when I choose to work from the office, it’s an easy 20-minute drive from my home with zero traffic jams.

    On top of all that, I can have any kind of alcohol I want and medical marijuana is legal. I can criticize my government leaders in public without fear of reprisal. I could be gay and have anal sex with men legally if I wanted to.

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        1 year ago

        You’re just mad that you don’t have all the cool freedoms that I have. I do literally whatever I want every day and it’s great.

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          1 year ago

          The US isn’t even close to being the country with the most freedom, but please continue to fall for your government and corporations propaganda.

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            1 year ago

            It’s funny how all of you America haters constantly talk about how we “don’t have any freedom” but you can’t provide any example of anything that I don’t have the freedom to do. Please go ahead and educate me about what freedom you think I don’t have, because I do whatever the fuck I want pretty much all the time.

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                Well I checked out your links, and you are wrong because I can do any of the things on those lists of allegedly missing freedoms. Literally I do have the freedom to do any of those things.

                Drugs - legal marijuana here, in the process of being Federally rescheduled at the moment

                Gambling - legal casinos here

                Traffic Laws - using the example of no speed limits on the Autobahn in Germany as the sole example of non-American freedom… yeah I don’t have that but I can drive as fast as I want illegally and I do on a regular basis with the aid of a radar detector

                Prostitution - legal in a state that I can access by car which I own and am able to operate currently, plus easily accessible illegally

                Speech - we do have freedom of speech, and your StackExchange article lists a weird example - “Although the US has more freedom of speech than many countries, fighting words are not protected.” - This was covered in a law class that I took in college, and it means that if you say reprehensible things to an individual to the point that you enrage them to the point that they attack you, your speech was not protected. Basically you can get your ass kicked for insulting people, and this is not what I would call a “lack of freedom” but the natural order of things as they should be. However this is noted by legal scholars as being a very difficult legal defense to mount without specific evidence that the “fighting words” were used and were bad enough to justify violence. My law teacher gave an example of a man he knew who used it, whose wife was being harassed by a man who would leave sexually explicit messages on their answering machine, talking about wanting to rape her and describing it in detail. Her husband kicked that man’s ass, pervert then sued, and the ass-kicker won the suit because he had the tapes of his messages.

                Abortion - legal in the USA and accessible in states near me

                Immigration - This is not a “freedom” that a citizen could make use of, being already a citizen. Every country has an immigration policy to screen the entrance of immigrants, no?

                Discrimination - This is a freedom that individuals have to freely exercise in private, but businesses are prohibited from discriminating based on many demographic factors against hiring or customers. I don’t see an issue with that.

                Voting - Voter ID is mentioned as a lack of freedom, but it has never stopped me from voting. I literally have the freedom to vote as I choose so I’m going to label this one as FALSE as well.

                So now that I have reached the end of your first list. I’m not going through the other links because this first one you offered was a pile of bullshit, and I have listed the reasons in detail that those are bullshit.

                Now please go on again about my “lack of freedom” since you utterly failed on the first attempt.

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                    What about that specifically do you find so funny? Part of one of my college degrees’ curriculum included classes about the law and American government.

                    Did you have any retort to the specific things that I listed? Can you list any freedoms that we don’t have in the USA?

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      Yeah we’ve all seen how depressing America is.

      It’s sad that you can only reach places such as shops by driving.

      Also you can’t even get an abortion, being trans is likely to get you genocides by a conservative, being black is likely to get you killed by a cop, you can’t see tits or swear but you can have blood and gore everywhere, your cops can no knock raid your house and drag you out to a detention centre and steal your children, you have little employee rights, and very few social protections, you’re banning books from libraries, stopping women getting healthcare, etc.

      And on top of all that, you can’t even have any alcohol until you’re 21 and weed is still federally illegal and millions of innocent people are in gaol for decades because of it.

      Honestly Americans are the least free of any developed nation and that’s only trending downwards for them.