I’ve been checking this site on and off from Europe for about a month. Can someone who knows more than me explain the expected timeline for what remains?
I feel like it jumped up into the mid 30%s after only a month or so and then stagnated for weeks.
Now it seems to have jumped again. But I guess I’m wondering at what sort of percentage does everything go to shit (not that it isn’t already!). Are there points where there is a no turning back or civil war becomes inevitable, etc.? Or does it hit a certain percentage where it will jump to 100% overnight due to certain protections being removed.
I guess I’m struggling to wrap my head around what I’m seeing, what it looks like between 40% and 100% and how quickly this might happen?
Even a guide somewhere on the net that breaks it down would be great.
It’s early 1933 right now. The nazis were elected, they’ve set the dismantling of the state into motion, and most of their opponents still think that the rule of law is technically still valid. It’ll just take time for the courts to do their thing.
The next step will be the Reichstag fire. So it might look like not a lot is getting worse for a few months, then one morning you might wake up, the news are talking about a terror attack allegedly done by an illegal immigrant, and any remaining pretense of democracy is simply wiped away by another “Executive Order” declaring an emergency, giving ICE authority to deal with “citizens aiding criminal aliens”, deputizing thousands into ICE, …
Fucked but still naively going about day to day life. Most people aren’t being actively harmed so they are sticking their head in the sand. Vague rumours of atrocities being committed on vulnerable people. Not us though. Vague unease. Some people can see something should be done but they’re looking around, waiting for someone to come and tell them what they should do. More in the line of 'what organisation can I donate $50 to, so that this unpleasantness will go away? That’s all they’ve known all their lives, so they’re desperately clinging onto their naivety.
Some people see the writing on the wall and target tesla, since apparently most americans in 2025 won’t get out onto the streets and protest, won’t stick their necks out even that far. Others go to the ‘politics of hope’ meetings and trust in the law and what is now really just tradition of law to save them. Oh and the democrats, who’ve been stripped of almost all political power but are still expected to swoop in and spank trump’s ass, restore a facade of decency.
It happens by increments so that each addition or subtraction doesn’t seem much worse than the last. Noone can tell you exactly when you’re going to lose the right to protest… To do anything to fight the loss of democracy, to fight the loss of your rights. It will happen, unless it’s stopped. Trump and the creators of project 2025 aren’t going to stop unless they’re stopped.
You don’t know that. Maybe the protests were the reason trump wasn’t as bad during the last presidency as he is now. He’s not a god, only a single man. He can’t actually do whatever he wants, only what he has the opportunity to do.
He’s nothing if not an opportunist so he’s going to push and push in every shitty direction, so you have to push back and back like Sisyphus pushing the boulder up the hill, because the alternative is unthinkable.
But hey, you can have a protest which is at least partly a party with friends, music, dancing, hope, community, fucking light. Not like their miserable hate filled lie-fests.
Occupy wallstreet. It was actually 100% correct on who the villains were, had an amazing amount of coverage and reach, was publicly terrorized by police on television in prime time, and what came of it?
There’s always an impact, even if it’s only a ‘hearts and minds’. Even if it’s only that you make the bullies take your freedom and dont just give it up. You might not get an obvious win, but it’s always better to fight. Do not let the bastards grind you down.
I’ve been checking this site on and off from Europe for about a month. Can someone who knows more than me explain the expected timeline for what remains?
I feel like it jumped up into the mid 30%s after only a month or so and then stagnated for weeks.
Now it seems to have jumped again. But I guess I’m wondering at what sort of percentage does everything go to shit (not that it isn’t already!). Are there points where there is a no turning back or civil war becomes inevitable, etc.? Or does it hit a certain percentage where it will jump to 100% overnight due to certain protections being removed.
I guess I’m struggling to wrap my head around what I’m seeing, what it looks like between 40% and 100% and how quickly this might happen?
Even a guide somewhere on the net that breaks it down would be great.
It’s early 1933 right now. The nazis were elected, they’ve set the dismantling of the state into motion, and most of their opponents still think that the rule of law is technically still valid. It’ll just take time for the courts to do their thing.
The next step will be the Reichstag fire. So it might look like not a lot is getting worse for a few months, then one morning you might wake up, the news are talking about a terror attack allegedly done by an illegal immigrant, and any remaining pretense of democracy is simply wiped away by another “Executive Order” declaring an emergency, giving ICE authority to deal with “citizens aiding criminal aliens”, deputizing thousands into ICE, …
Fucked but still naively going about day to day life. Most people aren’t being actively harmed so they are sticking their head in the sand. Vague rumours of atrocities being committed on vulnerable people. Not us though. Vague unease. Some people can see something should be done but they’re looking around, waiting for someone to come and tell them what they should do. More in the line of 'what organisation can I donate $50 to, so that this unpleasantness will go away? That’s all they’ve known all their lives, so they’re desperately clinging onto their naivety.
Some people see the writing on the wall and target tesla, since apparently most americans in 2025 won’t get out onto the streets and protest, won’t stick their necks out even that far. Others go to the ‘politics of hope’ meetings and trust in the law and what is now really just tradition of law to save them. Oh and the democrats, who’ve been stripped of almost all political power but are still expected to swoop in and spank trump’s ass, restore a facade of decency.
It happens by increments so that each addition or subtraction doesn’t seem much worse than the last. Noone can tell you exactly when you’re going to lose the right to protest… To do anything to fight the loss of democracy, to fight the loss of your rights. It will happen, unless it’s stopped. Trump and the creators of project 2025 aren’t going to stop unless they’re stopped.
I think the hesitancy on protests is that they’ve been wholly ineffective in the last decade of fighting against trump.
You don’t know that. Maybe the protests were the reason trump wasn’t as bad during the last presidency as he is now. He’s not a god, only a single man. He can’t actually do whatever he wants, only what he has the opportunity to do.
He’s nothing if not an opportunist so he’s going to push and push in every shitty direction, so you have to push back and back like Sisyphus pushing the boulder up the hill, because the alternative is unthinkable.
But hey, you can have a protest which is at least partly a party with friends, music, dancing, hope, community, fucking light. Not like their miserable hate filled lie-fests.
Occupy wallstreet. It was actually 100% correct on who the villains were, had an amazing amount of coverage and reach, was publicly terrorized by police on television in prime time, and what came of it?
Nothing. Nothing came of it.
There’s always an impact, even if it’s only a ‘hearts and minds’. Even if it’s only that you make the bullies take your freedom and dont just give it up. You might not get an obvious win, but it’s always better to fight. Do not let the bastards grind you down.