Senator Bernie Sanders and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez spoke to a crowd of 30,000 at civic center park in Denver Friday evening about President Donald Trump and billionaires
I do think Bernie is setting her up for that kind of run, since she will be old enough to be president. Could see her and Mayor Pete running a ticket together
Yikes, centrist Pete who helped prevent Bernie in 2020.
Would much rather see Jon Stewart as her VP. What a duo.
Also, Tim Walz would be a fantastic option, both as President and as VP.
It would be the mother of all ironies if the Trump government removed term limits, only for AOC/Stewart/Walz/Kulinski to come out winning and pull an FDR, turning the US into a socialdemocratic paradise.
Alas, I don’t expect there to be any more elections.
Why do people keep saying this about Jon Stewart? He’s a comedian, and he has said over and over and over and over and over that he will not run for public office, ever.
I hear ya. I think people keep latching onto him because of the 9/11 firefighters thing. I’m aware that as far as Jon is concerned, he didn’t do shit, and I understand why he feels that way. I also understand that to a large number of people, it very much looked like he showed up, yelled at Congress for a few days, and got them to actually pass the first bill, to help the people, that we have seen them pass in decades.
The 9/11 firefighters bill is evidence that Jon doesn’t have the stomach for day to day politics. He handled it well but he has spoken repeatedly on how frustrating the experience was. I doubt that, at this stage in his career, he’d want to do that everyday.
I don’t think Jon would make a good politician. He’s an exceptional communicator and has all the ideas that progressives want to see get attention but the day to day of politics is soul sucking and doesn’t seem like it’s his cup of tea.
It’s inconsequential that’s he’s a comedian. He’s a popular dude who believed in righting a wrong. I recall that there is a certain leader of a certain country who was a comedian.
I get that he’s repeatedly stated he will not run for public office but most people often change their minds if the circumstances are just right.
So the question is, what would it take for him to change his mind?
The world is a much different place right now than it was just a few months ago.
I hope you’re right. Zelenskyy not being a politician probably helped him win an election in a country with a history of corruption. People were sick of the status quo and picked an outsider in the hopes it would improve things. It would be great if that happened here. (I don’t consider Trump an outsider, that was just part of the grift)
Part of the reason it can be annoying when people keep suggesting Stewart run for office is that it distracts from actual candidates who are willing to run. And false optimism isn’t exactly a good strategy in times like these.
I couldn’t agree more with your pragmatism in that false optimism and thinking that there is an easy answer to the complex social economic political problem isn’t going to do anything other than possibly detract from the real answer for positive change.
My thoughts is that Zelenskyy and even Trump showed that they were politically viable because they were more relatable than their political competition at the time. So understanding who the majority of Americans find relatable but with a twist in that they actually have a soul, a strong enough constitution to resist oligarch influence and will run for office will be the proverbial million dollar question.
I think Jon Stewart would only run if his wife and family made him and/or things got really bad. But it might be too late if that were to happen. He knows what that road is likely going to be and doesn’t want to subject his family and himself to a life that they can never go back to. I don’t blame him of this was the case. But at this rate, unless he moves his family overseas, it might be worth it to him to go for it.
Oh please don’t. I love her and Bernie but he’s too old and she’s too female/not white. Find a white man who is just okay and fix democracy before trying again with a woman.
2028 might be the only time to even consider a dark skinned woman tbh. People wouldn’t have voted for Obama if they hadn’t been fed up with Bush’s bullshit war (which Obama then of course did almost nothing to pull out of). If the American people are EVER going to vote for AOC it’ll be because the economy is shit from an old white man fucking everything up for everyone.
Dont you think society has gotten less racist as time has gone on? Less misogynistic too (though less noticeable there). I’ve noticed even in my lifetime, though progress is slow and there are pockets of resistance and some backsliding, like Andrew Tate.
I think it’s too risky now to consider anyone but an old white guy (this is assuming a fair election even takes place). I wouldn’t put it past the American public to vote in another MAGA rather than a woman.
I do think Bernie is setting her up for that kind of run, since she will be old enough to be president. Could see her and Mayor Pete running a ticket together
Yikes, centrist Pete who helped prevent Bernie in 2020.
Would much rather see Jon Stewart as her VP. What a duo.
Also, Tim Walz would be a fantastic option, both as President and as VP.
It would be the mother of all ironies if the Trump government removed term limits, only for AOC/Stewart/Walz/Kulinski to come out winning and pull an FDR, turning the US into a socialdemocratic paradise.
Alas, I don’t expect there to be any more elections.
Why do people keep saying this about Jon Stewart? He’s a comedian, and he has said over and over and over and over and over that he will not run for public office, ever.
I hear ya. I think people keep latching onto him because of the 9/11 firefighters thing. I’m aware that as far as Jon is concerned, he didn’t do shit, and I understand why he feels that way. I also understand that to a large number of people, it very much looked like he showed up, yelled at Congress for a few days, and got them to actually pass the first bill, to help the people, that we have seen them pass in decades.
The 9/11 firefighters bill is evidence that Jon doesn’t have the stomach for day to day politics. He handled it well but he has spoken repeatedly on how frustrating the experience was. I doubt that, at this stage in his career, he’d want to do that everyday.
I don’t think Jon would make a good politician. He’s an exceptional communicator and has all the ideas that progressives want to see get attention but the day to day of politics is soul sucking and doesn’t seem like it’s his cup of tea.
Watch his TheWeeklyShow videos. Less comedy, more political.
I do. It doesn’t change what he has said repeatedly: he has no interest in running for office.
It’s inconsequential that’s he’s a comedian. He’s a popular dude who believed in righting a wrong. I recall that there is a certain leader of a certain country who was a comedian.
I get that he’s repeatedly stated he will not run for public office but most people often change their minds if the circumstances are just right.
So the question is, what would it take for him to change his mind?
The world is a much different place right now than it was just a few months ago.
Edited - Added some clarifying points.
I hope you’re right. Zelenskyy not being a politician probably helped him win an election in a country with a history of corruption. People were sick of the status quo and picked an outsider in the hopes it would improve things. It would be great if that happened here. (I don’t consider Trump an outsider, that was just part of the grift)
Part of the reason it can be annoying when people keep suggesting Stewart run for office is that it distracts from actual candidates who are willing to run. And false optimism isn’t exactly a good strategy in times like these.
I would love to be proven wrong, though.
I couldn’t agree more with your pragmatism in that false optimism and thinking that there is an easy answer to the complex social economic political problem isn’t going to do anything other than possibly detract from the real answer for positive change.
My thoughts is that Zelenskyy and even Trump showed that they were politically viable because they were more relatable than their political competition at the time. So understanding who the majority of Americans find relatable but with a twist in that they actually have a soul, a strong enough constitution to resist oligarch influence and will run for office will be the proverbial million dollar question.
I think Jon Stewart would only run if his wife and family made him and/or things got really bad. But it might be too late if that were to happen. He knows what that road is likely going to be and doesn’t want to subject his family and himself to a life that they can never go back to. I don’t blame him of this was the case. But at this rate, unless he moves his family overseas, it might be worth it to him to go for it.
Jasmine Crocket would be fantastic, too. or Al Green. Walz. My vote would be someone whose out there fighting and has government experience.
Oh please don’t. I love her and Bernie but he’s too old and she’s too female/not white. Find a white man who is just okay and fix democracy before trying again with a woman.
2028 might be the only time to even consider a dark skinned woman tbh. People wouldn’t have voted for Obama if they hadn’t been fed up with Bush’s bullshit war (which Obama then of course did almost nothing to pull out of). If the American people are EVER going to vote for AOC it’ll be because the economy is shit from an old white man fucking everything up for everyone.
Dont you think society has gotten less racist as time has gone on? Less misogynistic too (though less noticeable there). I’ve noticed even in my lifetime, though progress is slow and there are pockets of resistance and some backsliding, like Andrew Tate.
I think it’s too risky now to consider anyone but an old white guy (this is assuming a fair election even takes place). I wouldn’t put it past the American public to vote in another MAGA rather than a woman.