• cows_are_underrated@feddit.org
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    5 hours ago

    The AfD is only second strongest party. Also, no matter what anyone says. The real winners are the leftist party who got 8.7%.

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      5 hours ago

      The real winners are the leftist party who got 8.7%.

      Probably most of those voters voted SPD or die Grüne before but lost trust. Happened in Belgium too…

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        3 hours ago

        Yep. SPD lost way more to Union and AfD, though, and the Greens got out of this whole thing relatively unscathed, they have a quite stable basis.

        Fun fact: Die Linke gained more voters from CDU and FDP than they lost to the AfD.

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      Because the right-wing CDU/CSU has won and the right-wing AfD is right behind it? These are the fruits of 16 years of Merkel with “We can do it”. It started with her migration policy etc. and the attacks increased but only at times when they wanted to overturn laws or introduce new ones.
      This moved the population to the right. (We can do it… Making Germany right-wing again < that’s how it should have been understood!) So the AfD happen to be former CDU/CSU voters… Germany gave up its sovereignty yesterday.

      Democracy is broken!

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        The “we can do it” part wasn’t the problem, the problem was not backing it up with enough funds for states and municipalities to actually do a proper job. Which is a can of worm of fiscal politics if there ever was one because the reason the states are broke is because the wealth tax got suspended back in 1997. Kohl era shit.

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          The problem was that Merkel contributed everything to the division. She wanted destability etc. What is the best way to get a country to the right? You flood it with refugees with the aim of dividing it “we can do it” did not refer to managing the refugee situation… ( DE has helped itself that there are so many refugees at all ) But a party can hardly say “we are do it to dismantle democracy in order to impose our own will”.

          https://youtube.com/watch?v=SGD2q2vewzQ

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            3 hours ago

            I’m schizotypal, I know paranoid narratives when I see them. Get a grip. Touch some grass. Less consumption, more actual engagement with politics. Join Die Linke.

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              2 hours ago

              The video was 15 years ago lol. All the surveillance systems etc. that were implemented afterwards for spy citizen… You could also look at Snowden etc. again. It’s people like you why it’s getting worse. But the main thing is to hide your head in the sand so you don’t notice anything, right?

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                Dude I was in the fray, on the ground, when the Pirates were founded. And I wasn’t talking about the video when calling shit paranoid, didn’t even watch it.

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                  Oh, so you belong to the faction that discredits others as aluhut carriers and then years later is completely surprised when the whole shit is suddenly reality. One of the main reasons why it turns out so shitt( And why others started to think the pirates just sucks, because in addition to the kindergarten within the party, voters like you were added. Really, thanks for the shit!) Thank you for trampling on civil rights etc.

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                    Again, paranoia. You should have a look at that. Maybe compare the privacy situation here in Europe with how things work in the US.

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        4 hours ago

        So the AfD happen to be former CDU/CSU voters…

        Not directly. The biggest group of AfD Voters are former non voters. But in terms of voters who migrated to the AfD the biggest group can from the CDU.