• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    In an ideal world, but haven’t we learned that she’s too female and probably not white enough for America?

    The entire point behind “Kamala lost because she’s a woman of color, not because she wouldn’t differ from her unpopular predecessor except to move to his right” is to shut out AOC in particular. The party is willing to hold back all women in order to stifle one person, and it’s gross.

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      8 hours ago

      The fact is that many Americans wouldn’t vote for a woman, and combining that with the ones who wouldn’t vote for a person of colour is a bad idea, especially when the alternative for president is so dire.

      I do think that the fact she wouldn’t support Palestine/condemn Israel was a factor too, but if she had, that would have set Israel against her and lost more votes, especially due to all the media Zionists control and their lobbying power.

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        7 hours ago

        The Democratic president with the largest margin of victory in recent times was a black man and you’re still out here saying we need to court voters that won’t vote for a person of color in order to win. Maybe your read on the inherent unelectability of women is similarly flawed.

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          2 hours ago

          You again. There have been 2 women on the ballot and both failed, this latest with drastic consequences. So I’d say my read was 100% correct, unfortunately. I wish I was wrong.

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        7 hours ago

        The fact is that many Americans wouldn’t vote for a woman, and combining that with the ones who wouldn’t vote for a person of colour is a bad idea

        So long as a progressive is a possibility and not one femtosecond longer.

        I do think that the fact she wouldn’t support Palestine/condemn Israel was a factor too, but if she had, that would have set Israel against her and lost more votes

        So we have to (and you get to) support genocide forever too!

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          2 hours ago

          Not sure why I’m being down voted - I would have noted for kamala and I wish she was president. I’m saying that if there’s an option to take a risk now when failure means death then it’s best to not take the risk and wait for a time when the alternative is only pain. Trump was death, we all knew. Not a good time to take a risk. It would have been better to wait to take a risk in trying to elect a woman for the first time in a country of people who think its okay for a person held to the highest standards in the land to say ‘grab em by the pussy’, pay women for sex and be a rapist of women. Even aside from the racism. If you don’t see that then I’m shocked.