fox2263

How big was the win?

Didn’t he just win an election again

That’s not even his worst looking face either. Was it that CPAC last year with sun tan panda-eyes and smooth botox forehead?

I’m sorry for dehumanising you.

There is strong argument though that china is steadfast in becoming imperialist though, and Russia already is wether you like to believe it or not. The very definition of imperialism:

a policy of extending a country’s power and influence through colonisation, use of military force, or other means.

The chinese and russian spheres are immense. China owns the planet practically through their manufacturing exports, everyone relies on them. They have bought up many companies and land in every nation. They are a monopoly in many fields.

Can you explain how the dreaded western imperialists are carving up Ukraine? When Russia is literally carving it up? First Crimea and now you say they want the 4 Oblasts. Taking.

What are your thoughts on Putin’s remarks of “all of Ukraine is ours” and that he sees them as “one people” (i.e not ukranian) and the firm belief of an old russian adage of wherever a russian soldier boot steps is russian soil.

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Well, only SA has an ICJ case of genocide in Gaza, but we all know it is one.

Stop cheapening the term with your far right Russian propaganda.

Anything he doesn’t like is illegal

2 definitions of genocide are forcing transfer of children and removal of national identity.

Putin has stated and played down the national identity of Ukraine. He believes it to be a small subset of russia.

And it is widely reported that children were taken, especially in the first year from invaded areas, and are being adopted by Russian families or placed into boarding or the military.

And if you knew anything of Russian history towards Ukraine, you’d know there is absolutely precedent for these things. People and countries can change, my country for example is very close allies with France despite being absolute bitter enemies for countless centuries. But from listening to Putin and his talk of Ukraine, he has not changed.

I’m not saying it is Gaza. No one is. I’m saying they’re doing “Gaza-like” things. A key difference is that Israel essentially shoots Palestinians on sights and have a blatant disregard to human rights and human life.

That’s not to say that Russia is a white knight in comparison.

Awfully convenient for you and Russia all these things don’t you think? Smells a bit on my bullshit detector. Why would an IMF load require privatising healthcare and removing safety nets when almost no other nation in Europe or the world for that matter has such things.

What the loan did require was an introduction of austerity measures to help restore/bolster the economy, like ending certain gas subsidies (I suppose you could lump that in a safety net if you wish) and high government worker pay.

The people did not want the “no strings attached” loan from Russia because they knew it would not solve anything and they knew things needed to change, otherwise they would be in the same position in short order, and it would certainly not be no strings attached. When the people start protesting the government you know something is amiss.

They want less reliance on Russia, not more.

Regarding the Donbass, I know we hate links, but this essay seems quite informative with a lot of sources and I’m curious your thoughts - likely far-right aligned with Russia but I’m hopeful you can keep an open mind.

https://aspeniaonline.it/russian-disinformation-about-the-ukrainian-conflict-since-2014-fact-checking-and-recurring-patterns/

There’s lots of factors for everything isn’t there. If a thief has your phone unlocked then yes you’re pretty much knackered

Civilian casualties have been low 😆y’all need to shut the fuck up with that.

Do you think flattened villages, towns, cities in the first year had no casualties? That the massive missile and drone attacks each night yield no deaths? I mean they’re low now, almost four years in and laughably ineffective but some do get through and kill random civilians.

Ah, so if it’s not indiscriminate then it is discriminate. Targeted.

Hospitals. Shops. Schools. Businesses. Power.

On video. In print.

Also, the ousting of a pro Russian puppet due to not following the wishes of the people (free trade with Europe) should be quite telling. And then suddenly Russia rocks up with its military to try and force the issue.

Putin doesn’t want Ukraine to have closer ties to Europe. He doesn’t want them being self sufficient. He wants them to be dependent on Russia and be a part of it. They’ve always wanted it. First for the grain and now for the whatever else he wants - oil, minerals and wealth no doubt.

You clearly distrust Ukrainian sources and trust Russian sources though.

I don’t get how you can just go “no Ukraine don’t suffer civilian casualties” when Russia indiscriminately fire missiles and drones at cities.

Russia at the moment is acting very much like an evil empire.

You can understand their position though surely if you an admit a degree of that.

The ethnic cleansing may not be as “unsubtle” as Israel’s, but it is there, and there is history of it, and you cannot deny in Putins own words his dislike, or rather distaste and denial of the Ukrainian national identity, harkening back to imperialistic days.

You already dumped a load of “sources” previously.

I don’t think anyone is going to win by just showing information from either side of a position. I believe all your stuff is right wing propaganda. You believe all my stuff is right wing propaganda.

As the war enters its 4th year all we can hope is that there is a steady resolution to the conflict. That Ukraine remains sovereign. That Russia stops killing civilians.

Wether Ukraine cedes land to Russia for some reason is up to the Ukrainian people.

Fair. It just feels like you are leaping to their defence.

Putin has stated numerous times though that he considers Ukraine to be Russian and downplays their national identity. And go back enough in history and you do see a pattern.

Bonfire night ain’t for another 4 days though…

And yet, your opinion is Russia are valiant saviours coming to free Russian speaking Ukrainians, and not the systematic destruction of Ukraine.

Hers a simple google search for you. Many sources.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ukraine+children+kidnapped&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb#ip=1

the Wikipedia link, yourself having linked Wikipedia earlier

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_abductions_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war

With the United Nations stating this is a war crime

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64985009

https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/coiukraine/A_HRC_52_62_AUV_EN.pdf

Tangential to this, I quite enjoy this young man’s recount of the conflict https://youtu.be/jlTnKYTxWOY

But I bet this is all “right wing propaganda” somehow.