

The problem is it’s very expensive. Solar installers charge tens of thousands of dollars and has a long history of scams. They take the place of the old trope about scammy used car salesmen. They’ve created leases and PPAs in an attempt to make the initial cost easier but only succeeded in being scammy
It doesn’t help that we have tariffs and other barriers to low cost solar panel imports, yet insufficient support for domestic manufacturing to be competitive.
The math is hard. Everyone wants to know the payback threshold from the huge install cost up front but it’s not straightforward.
When I looked into solar I found
- lots of scammers, poor service
- I calculated a payback of 12 years from install cost given free energy, which is longer than I’m likely to own this house. But they claim 7?
- I only have sufficient unshaded roof for half my usage
- is it poor service or scamminess that it’s so difficult to get them to explain that?








Huh, that sounds very different from my experience. Everyone taped from TV, and traded tapes, even people who couldn’t set the time or schedule it. People were so desperate for time-shifting away from TV broadcast schedule and to share videos that they sat through entire shows to record them. There were frequent glitches from people trying to not record commercials, before commercial skipping technology became common. This was also the only reasonable way to have a movie collection, given the obscene prices of movies on tape. And of course child me thought I was clever to figure out how to schedule a recording, only to be frequently screwed up by sports and political events running long - I’d schedule an extra hour and sometimes that wasn’t enough