Threads’ roadmap for integrations with the fediverse, aka the network of decentralized apps that includes Twitter/X rival Mastodon and others, has been revealed. A new blog post by Tom Coates, the co-founder of an older decentralized app called Planetary, details the events of a December meeting at Meta’s offices where the Threads team had reached out to members of the fediverse community to get feedback about the Instagram-led project to take on X with a decentralized app that will eventually interoperate with others in the fediverse by way of the ActivityPub protocol.
I mean I get why people running open source, small software projects are going to find it hard not to be convinced just by the fact that they are probably getting their ego stroked super hard by meeting with extremely powerful and rich people… but this is such a stupid idea.
We don’t need meta, they don’t DO anything. What does meta do for the fediverse? Sure you can argue it brings in a ton of users but meta is a for-profit entity and it is never going to truly bring those users into the fediverse. Meta has an absurd amount of money, if they haven’t committed to creating a fediverse like idea in the past what makes everyone think now is different?
Why is a massive corporation with the money to fund 1000 fediverse software projects coming to a bunch of volunteers for help? Seriously, think about it, it really doesn’t make sense unless meta isn’t coming here for help but rather to mine and extract the value here for itself. We have ALREADY built most of the software tools that a too-big-to-function tech company with a lot of programmers could help with anyways, it is far too late in the game for meta to do anything meaningful there besides speed things up a little.
If we accept meta into the fediverse it might seem like we are winning by technically adding a ton of users but for heaven’s sake people need to realize winning doesn’t mean giving all your shit to the other side. The fediverse will become barely any better than the current corporate social network world, so what is the point?
I mean, they are NEVER going to invest in a significant amount of human moderators, that would basically admit the business model of a for-profit social network is fundamentally busted. They will “try” to do it with “””Ai””” and also through underpaid employees in moderation farms in third world countries who are constantly getting traumatized from having to see all the most offensive shit… but it is never going to work.
The question is, why did you come here in the first place? For me, letting meta in violates most of those reasons.
And what if I don’t want to be followed from Meta?
Don’t post on the internet. If you think Meta doesn’t also crawl the web the old school way like Google also does to train AI and such, you’re seriously out of touch with reality.
Giving them your own data legally and that they illegally fetch your data is not same.
Crawling the web isn’t illegal. Google wouldn’t exist if it was.
So why the New York Times sued OpenAI? There are multiple cases regarding this. Why do online and public platforms feel entitled to sue AI companies (according to you)?
If OpenAI and NYT were 2 news sites in the fediverse and had the ability to share their news with each other; I’m sure NYT couldn’t file such a lawsuit.
Did they win? Simply suing isn’t the same as being right.
Is it wrong to get Author’s Guild lawsuit vibes with the NYT vs. OpenAI stuff? Seems similar.
That’s the difference I’m trying to explain. If you give them, you have no right. If they do it themselves, then you can at least sue.
It’s like I stop locking my door because there’s a chance burglars could break into my house and steal things at any time.
normie centrist take. support privacy oriented organizations and politicians. ask your instance to block threads and if they don’t, move to one that works for you and your safety. giving up and being okay with billionaires playing fuck-all with your data at no cost is playing right into their hands.
Well, the good news is that according to this list, your instance already blocks Threads.
Is there any way for me to know if a Kbin instance also blocked Threads?
You could try to follow a user from threads, such as @mosseri. I guess that won’t be possible from instances where threads is defederated.
am block threads and still see
Well, if you’re right, Kbin looks to not have defederated Threads
Maybe you have blocked Threads yourself? I’m not sure if Kbin even supports that (it’s possible on Mastodon and Pixelfed), but I can see Mosseri’s account just fine from my end!
Oh, I tried to say that I can see and even follow this Threads account, so probably Kbin is still federated! Sorry if it wasn’t clear
Oops, you’re perfectly clear - I’m just tired and misread. Yes, Kbin is still federated with Threads indeed. :)
just post as unlisted like you could from the start?
Please explain. Unlisted as in without a username?
no there are levels of privacy when you make a post on mastodon. public, unlisted, followers only, and only people mentioned.
unlisted opts out of discovery like the public timelines
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December meeting at Meta’s offices where the Threads team had reached out to members of the fediverse community to get feedback about the Instagram-led project
Is this the one people thought Ruud was a part of?
All I know is that Stux’s instances was on the fence regarding Threads until a little meeting with Ruud somewhere in the Netherlands a few weeks ago. 😉
Who is Stux?
Edit: they run mstdn.social
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Threads’ roadmap for integrations with the fediverse, aka the network of decentralized apps that includes Twitter/X rival Mastodon and others, has been revealed.
A new blog post by Tom Coates, the co-founder of an older decentralized app called Planetary, details the events of a December meeting at Meta’s offices where the Threads team had reached out to members of the fediverse community to get feedback about the Instagram-led project to take on X with a decentralized app that will eventually interoperate with others in the fediverse by way of the ActivityPub protocol.
Meta did, in fact, start testing ActivityPub integration in December, allowing Threads posts to appear on Mastodon.
In addition, this rule would potentially come into play when a user banned from Meta’s platform moved their content to another Mastodon server.
Coates suggested various reasons why Meta may be pursuing this — perhaps to thwart coming regulation or to take over Twitter/X’s place in the zeitgeist as new owner Elon Musk turns it into an everyday app, potentially diluting its value as a fast-breaking news network and home to conversations.
Explained Flipboard CEO Mike McCue in a conversation with TechCrunch last month, what excited him about Mastodon and ActivityPub was that it wasn’t just about where social media was heading, it was where the web itself was going.
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when a user banned from Meta’s platform moved their content to another Mastodon server.
Isn’t this a huge problem for the fediverse where a user would them need to be banned twice? It feels like Meta is pushing their problems out to others to deal with.
I’m not sure if this is the intended mechanism but it does seem like a problem for moderators. I hope this is being addressed or fediverse mods will be swamped with bad actors considering Meta’s potentially huge user base.
hopefully the other way around too; threads has a lot of the mainstream people i used to follow when i had twitter and i’d love to follow them again.
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