i know you’ve all heard it before, but i didn’t catch up, i was honestly a bit surprised when i was browsing and tesseract on dubvee shut down.
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agreed, i love tesseract
Yeah, not so nice for just downvoting a post of his though. Fediverse is better off without that kind of toxic behaviour.
Why would you downvote that post though?
The post was fine, the premise is wrong about the fediverse. That’s why I downvoted and didn’t interact further.
Hm, I see. Fair, to be honest.
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Yeah, that’s fair. I only see the interaction put in front of me, what’s been posted, and anything I might catch in certain matrix channels. The only known interaction I had with PTZ directly was a ban and him giving me the finger.
as a dev sure. as an admin he had a recent kerfuffle on news, etc, with bans and involvement in some drama around them.
Guy instance banned a bunch of people simply for speaking up in favor of Luigi, before it got clear how many supporters there were. Admin-wise, some questionable decisions. Still he did a lot of good for Lemmy. Shame to lose him.
oh did not know abt those bans. he got me when I posted intolerance of nazis because I was “dehumanizing” them. but yeah. as a dev good! administration was just too much for him.
Was he not aware of the paradox of tolerance and the Nazi bar parable?
Afaik he tolerated no support for calls for violence whatsoever on his instance. Which is his freedom to do as his line of moderating, but obviously brought him into conflict with the beliefs of many on Lemmy
And I so fully support banning calls for violence. in my example (anecdotally) there was no violence just uncomfortable rhetoric. (also he was a mod of news on .world at the time - not just his instance but maybe that’s how it works here? not fully sure.)
If you’re advocating violence against people you arbitrarily deem nazis it doesn’t make you a good guy and you’re likely breaking plenty of laws regardless of jurisdiction. I’m seeing liberals advocating violence against people voting for Trump, that’s pretty dehumanising.
A) I never advocated violence. I support a prohibition on such actions.
B) I did not arbitrarily label anyone anything. The subjects themselves did it. I merely used the labels they give themselves in my commentary about the kinds of people they are.
C) I am in no way, shape, or form a liberal.
I didn’t have to scroll that far lol
reminder: these fascists assholes are not human. they give up all humanity when they actively choose to become or remain within this trump nazi cult. so when we say “nazis are not human” we are not dehumanizing them; they did it to themselves. these fuckwits need prison. all of them.
Get educated on how nazis dehumanised people so that it would make violence possible later before you go around calling people nazis. For a nazi hunter you seem to know little about nazism, or pretend not to because you’re just out for revenge.
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Dubvee was mass banning users for harmless comments on comms on other instances that had nothing to do with their instance. It all seemed very strange to me, what the point of all that was.
Essentially, if you were a user on his instance he assumed you were there because you wanted his curated version of the fediverse. So his instance ban list got treated like his own personal block list.
If that is stated somewhere openly before signing up, I honestly see nothing wrong with it. I wouldn’t sign up there, but if there are any tangible rules associated with what is banned and what is not, and you can check those, fine.
If its erratic banning and random rules not written down, then eh, bad stuff.
It definitely was stated yes. I don’t want to try to search for it now that dubvee.org is down, but fwiw I definitely recall seeing multiple posts by him stating exactly that, how he wanted to replicate “Beehaw” behavior.
Edit: e.g. a link I shared with someone earlier, not that it works anymore but if it helps: https://dubvee.org/post/dubvee.org/1516426 .
They’re certainly not the only instance that engages in such classy activities
Tesseract is open source so perhaps not all is entirely lost, but yes situation is quite unfortunate. I’m not sure I can even say surprising though, considering ptz was raising flags nearly a year ago regarding admin tooling and general community behavior.
i know you’ve all heard it before
Nope. Seriously, no idea what you’re taking about.
I made a post about it a few days ago
Essentially, the guy who makes Tesseract, an open-source Lemmy frontend, burned out and discontinued it and closed his instance.
Thanks!
Tesseract was functional but not as beautiful as Photon. I think I’ll stick with Photon.
Just wish that Photon had the same features as Tesseract. I do think Photon looks better but Tesseract is way more functional. It has Fediseer integration, has MBFC integration, and also has better options for user management.
Tesseract was the only client that had an in-community search input, compared to all the other clients that require re-entering the community name. That shows how functional it was to me.
I’m looking for third-party instances right now (that’s how I ended up on this post), found one so far (but outdated) : https://lemmy.max-p.me/
EDIT : found others
This sucks, I hope someone forks it before it breaks. Either that or hopefully most of its nice features get ported/added to Photon. So mods don’t have to end up living without them.
